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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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April 14, 2021, 01:33 AM
Excam_Man
When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

Well, Fauci is still a huge douchebag.


Couldn't agree more!




April 14, 2021, 04:36 AM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:

Quick question.

Has the CDC ever applied For Secret Coronavirus Patents?
If so, why would they do that?


No. Next question?
April 14, 2021, 05:44 AM
Jupiter
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:

Quick question.

Has the CDC ever applied For Secret Coronavirus Patents?
If so, why would they do that?


No. Next question?



Thanks for your answer trapper189.
With all the secrecy surrounding some patents, how you were able to come up with your answer so quickly?


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-- George Orwell

April 14, 2021, 05:58 AM
Bassamatic
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
[QUOTE]
This is the Show Me State!

You're gonna have to convince me that this vaccine is safe (long term) and effective. Don't think that you can just pressure me into taking an experimental vaccine by telling me I'll need a 'vaccine passport' to travel or attend social functions or to go work out. That's not freedom of choice.


Yup. The bullshit just keeps getting deeper. As far as that J&J shot, that works out to less than six people per million have had a reaction to the vaccine. That is like nothing, and yet they pause the shot for who knows why.

They tell us the Covid shot is effective and will keep you from getting the virus. And then they tell us that we must still mask up (with multiple masks) and stay away from other people, i.e., stay at home and don't leave. WTF? Does this vaccine work or not?

I've got a headache.



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April 14, 2021, 07:21 AM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:

Thanks for your answer trapper189.
With all the secrecy surrounding some patents, how you were able to come up with your answer so quickly?

Fairly simply and quite easily. Almost by definition, patents are public. Secret by definition means not known. A secret patent is an oxymoron and would serve no purpose, which answers your second question as to why one would obtain a secret patent, no one would because it would serve no purpose.

Of course you can’t prove the existence of a secret patent anymore than I can disprove its existence because it’s a secret.

That’s some top level conspiracy bullshit right there. Last I knew, conspiracy theories have no place on the forum.
April 14, 2021, 07:46 AM
Jupiter
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:

Thanks for your answer trapper189.
With all the secrecy surrounding some patents, how you were able to come up with your answer so quickly?

Fairly simply and quite easily. Almost by definition, patents are public. Secret by definition means not known. A secret patent is an oxymoron and would serve no purpose, which answers your second question as to why one would obtain a secret patent, no one would because it would serve no purpose.

Of course you can’t prove the existence of a secret patent anymore than I can disprove its existence because it’s a secret.

That’s some top level conspiracy bullshit right there. Last I knew, conspiracy theories have no place on the forum.


So a Patent can't be hidden from public view for any reason?



It's Slate so you do have to consider the source. Wink
Secrecy orders allow U.S. defense agencies to control patents, including those that are privately developed.

https://slate.com/technology/2...-to-make-public.html


143 New Patents That Won't See the Light of Day
https://www.sciencemag.org/new...s-wont-see-light-day

Here's a doozy.
https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s120.html


Invention Secrecy Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...played%20this%20role.

quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
Of course you can’t prove the existence of a secret patent anymore than I can disprove its existence because it’s a secret.


So your answer to my org. question is you really don't know.


Diligentia, Vis, Celeritas

"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
-- George Orwell

April 14, 2021, 09:25 AM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:

So your answer to my org. question is you really don't know.
Well, I do know.



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April 14, 2021, 09:34 AM
Ironbutt
quote:
Originally posted by Excam_Man:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

Well, Fauci is still a huge douchebag.


Couldn't agree more!


In the last year Dr Fauci has disagreed with everything Dr Fauci said. And he's still the "expert".


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April 14, 2021, 09:41 AM
Dwill104
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:

Thanks for your answer trapper189.
With all the secrecy surrounding some patents, how you were able to come up with your answer so quickly?

Fairly simply and quite easily. Almost by definition, patents are public. Secret by definition means not known. A secret patent is an oxymoron and would serve no purpose, which answers your second question as to why one would obtain a secret patent, no one would because it would serve no purpose.

Of course you can’t prove the existence of a secret patent anymore than I can disprove its existence because it’s a secret.

That’s some top level conspiracy bullshit right there. Last I knew, conspiracy theories have no place on the forum.


So a Patent can't be hidden from public view for any reason?



It's Slate so you do have to consider the source. Wink
Secrecy orders allow U.S. defense agencies to control patents, including those that are privately developed.

https://slate.com/technology/2...-to-make-public.html


143 New Patents That Won't See the Light of Day
https://www.sciencemag.org/new...s-wont-see-light-day

Here's a doozy.
https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s120.html


Invention Secrecy Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...played%20this%20role.

quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
Of course you can’t prove the existence of a secret patent anymore than I can disprove its existence because it’s a secret.


So your answer to my org. question is you really don't know.


While I can see that some patents might be secret, I’d guess that the vast majority of “secret patents” are not medical related, and of those that are, Fauci doesn’t have 1000 of them, so that article is straight up BS.

Also, if they were secret, it seems doubtful that some website that no one’s heard of would break that wall of secrecy.
April 14, 2021, 09:52 AM
Jupiter
quote:
Originally posted by Dwill104:
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:
quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
quote:
Originally posted by Jupiter:

Thanks for your answer trapper189.
With all the secrecy surrounding some patents, how you were able to come up with your answer so quickly?

Fairly simply and quite easily. Almost by definition, patents are public. Secret by definition means not known. A secret patent is an oxymoron and would serve no purpose, which answers your second question as to why one would obtain a secret patent, no one would because it would serve no purpose.

Of course you can’t prove the existence of a secret patent anymore than I can disprove its existence because it’s a secret.

That’s some top level conspiracy bullshit right there. Last I knew, conspiracy theories have no place on the forum.


So a Patent can't be hidden from public view for any reason?



It's Slate so you do have to consider the source. Wink
Secrecy orders allow U.S. defense agencies to control patents, including those that are privately developed.

https://slate.com/technology/2...-to-make-public.html


143 New Patents That Won't See the Light of Day
https://www.sciencemag.org/new...s-wont-see-light-day

Here's a doozy.
https://www.uspto.gov/web/offices/pac/mpep/s120.html


Invention Secrecy Act
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/...played%20this%20role.

quote:
Originally posted by trapper189:
Of course you can’t prove the existence of a secret patent anymore than I can disprove its existence because it’s a secret.


So your answer to my org. question is you really don't know.


While I can see that some patents might be secret, I’d guess that the vast majority of “secret patents” are not medical related, and of those that are, Fauci doesn’t have 1000 of them, so that article is straight up BS.

Also, if they were secret, it seems doubtful that some website that no one’s heard of would break that wall of secrecy.



I don't know how many Fauci has. My point is that Patents can be hidden and the true owners of patents can also be hidden.
I would go out on a limb and say it's a pretty good chance no one here really knows.
One thing we do know. There is HUGE conflict of interest and I would not label anyone as a Conspiracy theorist until we know for sure. It's unlikely that will ever happen.


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"People sleep peaceably in their beds at night only because rough men stand ready to do violence on their behalf."
-- George Orwell

April 14, 2021, 10:01 AM
PASig
Big Grin Big Grin Big Grin

quote:

'It Is Still Not Safe To Go Outside,' Says Fauci's Head In A Jar In Year 2739

April 12th, 2021 - BabylonBee.com


WASHINGTON, D.C.—An intercepted transmission that appears to be from the year 2739 shows footage of Dr. Anthony Fauci -- or rather, just his head, which has been preserved in a jar. In the video from the future, Fauci says it's still not safe to go outside, go to movie theaters, or eat indoors.

"Honestly, even if you've been immunized and are quadruple-masking, per current recommendations, I don't think I would risk it," he said. "Although we eradicated the virus some seven centuries ago, we can't be too careful. We must remain vigilant."

"If we let up even a little bit, we could end up right back where we were in 2020."

Fauci also revealed that the alien invasion that occurred in 2471 was a "major setback" in the fight against the virus, as much of humanity refused to social distance while going to war against the creatures from the distant planet Graxon V.

"People were very careless during the War for Earth," he said. "We tried to get the troops to wear masks and such, but they continued to go outside and save humanity without the slightest care for COVID-19."

Despite the grim outlook for the pandemic 700 years in the future, Fauci says he is optimistic that he will remain in the public spotlight at least until the heat death of the universe.


Link


April 14, 2021, 01:50 PM
bigdeal
quote:
Originally posted by Bassamatic:
As far as that J&J shot, that works out to less than six people per million have had a reaction to the vaccine. That is like nothing, and yet they pause the shot for who knows why.
Given all the irregularities (to put it mildly) in the numbers we've seen for Covid, do you really trust the numbers that indicate only 6 people have been adversely affected? I believe there's a bit of justification to believe that number might be far lower than the real situation would reflect.


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April 14, 2021, 02:54 PM
konata88
Regular annual flu vaccines for which J&J should be similar - what's the incidence of adverse effects? Blood clots?

Even if the mRNA shots had ZERO adverse effects to-date, I'd still prefer the J&J everyday and twice on Sunday over the mRNA variants.

I don't trust something which is being pushed down my throat by people that have been lying to us from the beginning for reasons that seem like personal gain to benefit people I don't like to questionably prevent something for which I don't believe I have any risk, and likely have 99.7% recovery rate.

The one thing that does scare me about this wuflu is that it's manufactured and who knows what the truth is about the virus. What's it manufactured to do?




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April 14, 2021, 03:03 PM
f2


Vitamin D and COVID 19: The Evidence for Prevention and Treatment of Coronavirus (SARS CoV 2) 12-10-20

6:55 HFCS can accelerate the inactivation of vitamin D.
9:38 35th parallel and winter vitamin D from the sun
13:28 vitamin D and aging.. ability for your skin to produce D3 drops two fold when in your 70s / 80s
18:44 Vitamin D supplementation to prevent acute respiratory tract infections Meta-analysis of 25 RTC ( randomized controlled trials ), 11,321 patients, published BMJ Feb 2017
25:30 smoking & covid
27:27 popultations living below 35 degrees latitude - When mortality per million is plotted against latitude, it can be seen that all countries that lie below 35 deg North have relatively low mortality. 35 deg North also happens to be the latitudge above which people do not recweive sufficient sunlight to retain adequate vitamin D levels during winter.
April 14, 2021, 07:02 PM
wcb6092
Moderna Eyes Combo COVID-19, Flu Vaccine

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfr...21/04/14/id/1017554/

The wave of the vaccine future may be a one-two punch aimed to KO both COVID-19 and the flu with one shot.

Moderna CEO, Stéphane Bancel, appeared on NBC's Squawk Box Wednesday morning to discuss a much anticipated move by the pharmaceutical company that would make boosting both vaccines simpler and more effective.

"COVID-19 is not going away. It's not leaving the planet," Bancel said, adding that with the variants mutating, getting a booster shot custom designed to neutralize whatever form of the coronavirus is dominant would be the logical path to take.

Bancel said that with more vaccination and more people getting infected, the pace of COVID-19 will naturally slow down, much like influenza. He said Moderna's goal is to develop a vaccine annually tailored to tackle both the COVID-19 and flu pathogens in one dose so that people can go to their pharmacies or primary care providers and be vaccinated in one visit.

According to The Wall Street Journal, Bancel predicts that the combination vaccine could be ready in a couple of years, pending upon the formal approval of their COVID-19 vaccine by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration, and then the standard authorization for the dual drug. Currently, the COVID-19 vaccines on the U.S. market have emergency use authorization, or EUA.

Both influenza and COVID-19 are respiratory illnesses. Bancel said that the mRNA technology used in Moderna’s COVID-19 vaccine can be easily tweaked to accommodate multiple viral strains.

"Today the vaccines we have for seasonal flu are OK in a great year, and they are pretty bad in a bad year, in terms of efficacy," Bancel said, according to the WSJ. "It's not impossible that in a couple of years we should have the product I just talked about — a high efficacy seasonal flu vaccine and a COVID-19 vaccine — for you at your pharmacy on an annual basis."


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April 14, 2021, 08:11 PM
Balzé Halzé
^^^ And that will guarantee that my children will never again receive a flu shot.


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April 15, 2021, 08:06 AM
chellim1
quote:
9:38 35th parallel and winter vitamin D from the sun





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April 15, 2021, 08:59 AM
V-Tail
The text mentions the 35th parallel but the illustration shows the 37th parallel.

Confused



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April 15, 2021, 09:08 AM
BamaJeepster
Whoops...All the vaccines have similar risk with clots.


https://www.cbsnews.com/news/c...neca-moderna-oxford/



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April 15, 2021, 09:46 AM
Balzé Halzé
^^^ What I've been saying


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Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan

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