Italian Police Stand Down And Stand With The People
https://brandnewtube.com/watch...goA2NoJqMhyhuOm.html

Jupiter, sometimes I can't see your embedded videos. Can you include a link? Thanks.

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Originally posted by 6guns:
Jupiter, sometimes I can't see your embedded videos. Can you include a link? Thanks.

Sorry about that.
Here ya go.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch...goA2NoJqMhyhuOm.html

^^^ Thank you!

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Originally posted by Jupiter:

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Originally posted by 6guns:
Jupiter, sometimes I can't see your embedded videos. Can you include a link? Thanks.

Sorry about that.
Here ya go.
https://brandnewtube.com/watch...goA2NoJqMhyhuOm.html

This whole thing is starting to unwind rather quickly. People have had enough of it. Now the million dollar question is, will governments be smart enough to stop pushing, or will they push themselves into a civil war over this. I'm not confident they're even close to smart enough to see the signs of what's coming.

GROUP OF FRENCH POLICE THROW IN BADGES AND CUFFS THEY NOT ENFORCING NWO

https://brandnewtube.com/watch...291BBhcvSvtOPqb.html

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I'm not confident they're even close to smart enough to see the signs of what's coming.

They don't have to be smart; they have smart people behind the scenes that can read the writing. But that does not mean they'll stop. They'll simply shift the attack on freedom to another direction. Despite how some here feel, a vast majority of LEO's, National Guard, and even the military are not going to turn on the people of this country.

So I am going to have to get the vaccine - due to work/travel. Don't really want it, but gonna have to do it.

I can sign up to get the single J&J next week or get on the list for one of the other 2 dose deals.

All I want is the card - I don't care about the statistics, etc. but would definitely prefer that it not kill me.

Pros and cons of the different vaccines available?

Sorry if this has been hashed out, I have ignored most of the discussions surrounding them because I was hoping I could just opt out of getting it, but that's not going to be the case. Also, the internet is all over the board trying to find any kind of rational discussion - it's either you are going to die or it's perfectly safe and any concerns are conspiracy theories.

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Pros and cons of the different vaccines available?

Only advice I can give is that the Pfizer vaccine requires much colder temps for storage than the Moderna version, and is therefore more apt to be mishandled before administered.

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

...I can sign up to get the single J&J next week or get on the list for one of the other 2 dose deals.

All I want is the card...

I say get J&J next week, one shot and you're done. ANd you get the card!

With Moderna (which I got) you get #2 in 28 days, with Pfizer (Mrs Sigmund got) it's 21 days.

bama,

2 articles that might be of interest re J&J:

https://www.nytimes.com/intera...ovid-19-vaccine.html

https://www.cdc.gov/coronaviru...accines/janssen.html

Id consider trying to find a black market card and NOT get the shot

Thanks for the input guys!

I called to have my name put on the list for the J&J next Friday, I'm supposed to get confirmation within 48 hours so I will report back if the appt is made. If it doesn't go thru I'm pretty sure I can get the first of the Pfizer or Moderna shots pretty soon.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
Id consider trying to find a black market card and NOT get the shot

If I thought that was a real possibility and pretty bullet proof I would definitely consider it. I'd be willing to pay a decent amount.

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Pros and cons of the different vaccines available?

The Moderna and Pfizer vaxs are a newer "mRNA" type, 94 and 95% effective respectively. However, they require 2 injections several weeks apart.

The J&J vax is based on existing vaccine technology, and said to be 66% effective (though more recent data suggests significantly higher). However, it requires only 1 shot. It is arguably better for those with young, healthy immune systems, say under 30-ish (it will probably be the first vaccine available for children).

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Might give you some useful information.

Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS)

Lefty Sig, thanks for the citation. I'm spreading it around.

Why am I not surprised? I grew up near Syracuse but left the state 35 years ago.

https://epass.ny.gov/home

https://nypost.com/2021/03/26/...-coming-to-new-york/

Nation’s first ‘vaccine passport’ coming to New York

By Gabrielle Fonrouge
March 26, 2021

The nation’s very first “vaccine passport” is coming to the Big Apple.

The program, dubbed the “Excelsior Pass,” is an app that will allow New Yorkers to prove their vaccination status, or recent history of a negative COVID-19 test, in order to gain entry to events and businesses, Governor Cuomo announced in a news release Friday.

“Similar to a mobile airline boarding pass, individuals will be able to either print out their pass or store it on their smartphones using the Excelsior Pass Wallet app,” the news release explains.

“Each Pass will have a secure QR code, which participating businesses and venues can scan using a companion app to verify proof of COVID-19 negative test results or proof of vaccination. An individual’s data is kept secure and confidential at all times.”

The app won’t show any health information when scanned — it’ll only show a green checkmark if the person has been vaccinated or tested negatively or a red “x” if they haven’t.

Major venues, such as Madison Square Garden and the Times Union Center in Albany, will begin using the app next week and on April 2, Excelsior Pass will expand to “smaller arts, entertainment and event venues,” Cuomo’s office said.

The app, which launched Friday, already works to prove vaccination status or negative test results and can be used to gain access to wedding receptions, which now require negative tests from attendees, and other events above the social gathering limit.

“New Yorkers have proven they can follow public health guidance to beat back COVID, and the innovative Excelsior Pass is another tool in our new toolbox to fight the virus while allowing more sectors of the economy to reopen safely and keeping personal information secure,” Cuomo said in a statement.

“The question of ‘public health or the economy’ has always been a false choice — the answer must be both. As more New Yorkers get vaccinated each day and as key public health metrics continue to regularly reach their lowest rates in months, the first-in-the-nation Excelsior Pass heralds the next step in our thoughtful, science-based reopening.”

The app, launched after two pilot demonstrations held in recent weeks, will use blockchain technology and encryption to ensure the health information is stored securely.

To sign up, New Yorkers can register by downloading the app and inputting personal information to verify their identity. The app will then pull data from the state’s vaccine registry and a number of pre-approved COVID-19 testing companies.

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“The question of ‘public health or the economy’ has always been a false choice..."

No, that isn't the question. The question is and continues to be, "is the American public going to demand the truth regarding this virus, or are they going to continue to accept the lies and misrepresentations of the people in charge right now". Sadly, It's likely the latter.


And as for BamaJeepster's situation, and likely that of many others, I gotta ask...what country is this? Your job or an administration of a drug you don't want (and most likely don't need)? How did we fall so far as to allow this sort of behavior and edicts by some of the world's dumbest individuals? Disgusted doesn't even begin to cover it.

Oh, and why is Cuomo still governor of New York? Has this clown not done enough yet to get booted?

I predict a new black market for fake vaccine passports and/or a niche network of coyotes to transport those that refuse the shot.