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Originally posted by Gustofer:
^^^^^^ Whack-job antivaxxer. Might as well interview Jenny McCarthy.

Do you believe Geert Vanden Bossche is a Whack-Job?

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^^^^^^ Whack-job antivaxxer. Might as well interview Jenny McCarthy.

Sure, this is all that is left for those like gus who disagree with those in the medical field who think this experiment is not a great deal. The "great push" is more than enough for me to question it.

I have an open mind and one who can sort the available data and determine for myself what to do or not to do.

I think he may have a pix of fauci on his mantel.

I had to watch a webinar at work yesterday where our business area EVP and his 3 assembled minons had to basically BEG us all to get the vaccine as soon as we can.

BEGGING.

Why are they begging? That says it all to me right there.

They also keep alluding to making it a condition of employment which scares the crap out of me.

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They also keep alluding to making it a condition of employment which scares the crap out of me.

When it becomes mandatory, or a condition of employment, or travel...
there will be freedom-loving people living on the outside, excluded from their utopia...

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Originally posted by chellim1:

When it becomes mandatory, or a condition of employment, or travel...
there will be freedom-loving people living on the outside, excluded from their utopia...

That pic reminded of Edgar Friendly and his rant from Demolition Man:

I'm the enemy. Cause I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech and freedom of choice. I'm the kind if guy who wants to sit in a greasy spoon and think, "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of barbecued ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I want to eat bacon, butter and buckets of cheese, okay? I want to smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in a non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jello all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to. Okay, pal? I've seen the future, you know what it is? It's a 47-year-old virgin sittin' around in his beige pajamas, drinking a banana-broccoli shake singing "I'm an Oscar-Meyer Wiener". You wanna live on top, you gotta live Cocteau's way. What he wants, when he wants, how he wants. Your other choice: come down here, maybe starve to death.

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Originally posted by PASig:
They also keep alluding to making it a condition of employment which scares the crap out of me.

Can't do that. As far as I understand from medical processionals, no one can be compelled to take a vaccine that is on Emergency Use Authorization without full FDA approval. Asserting such could get your employer in big trouble. And realistically, the only real mechanisms for mandatory vaccination are public school attendance, and military service.

Businesses want to limit liability for virus transmission at work, so of course they want you to get the vaccine so they can get back to "normal" faster, so they will promote it as much as they can.

Look at it this way:

Trump engaged the Pharma companies and challenged them to develop a vaccine before the end of 2020, reducing regulatory red tape and contracting to buy millions of doses from multiple companies as a hedge against who might succeed. He told us we would have a vaccine in 2020 and the "experts" said it was impossible and the democrats said he was lying. Biden called him a liar in the debates. And Kamala Harris spread FUD about "Trump Vaccines" being unsafe. But Trump did the impossible.

Then the first vaccine was validated and they held back the info until just after the election to favor Biden. I will bet Fauci had something to do with this. Biden entered office with two vaccines ready and a third close behind and all he can do is bitch and blame Trump for his own administration's inability to distribute the vaccines, along with democrat states' inability to decide which politically favored group gets to go first. He also takes credit for cross licensing of manufacturing he had nothing to do with and invoking the "defense production act" as if the Pharma companies need to be forced to make enough vaccine doses to meet demand?

Meanwhile most of Europe except UK screwed the pooch and are way behind the US on vaccines.

The democrats politicized vaccines the entire time and did everything they could to discredit Trump. Then they politicized distribution and said "old white people" should be behind minority essential workers despite much lower risk relative to age.

Based on this, the logical conclusion is that the democrats were wrong and lying the whole time, Trump was right and we should get the vaccine. The democrats created the FUD over "Trump Vaccines", not the Republicans. I got the first Pfizer shot Sunday. My arm hurt a day or two. I don't feel 100% but hard to say if it's really vaccine related.

Due to international travel I've been vaccinated for everything else - Hep A, Hep B, Yellow Fever, Polio booster, DTP periodic (10 years I think), and Typhus periodic (2 years). I've never had a reaction other than mild fly symptoms with the Typhus vaccine but Ibuprofen generally can prevent that if you take it concurrently. I have no doubt that various countries will mandate vaccines to get entry visas, or to avoid quarantine periods. So the sooner the better for me so I can get back on the road when my company allows me to.

In the very early days of the pandemic, Elmhurst Hospital in Queens was "Ground Zero".
The Video by Dr. Coleen Smith went viral and was carried by the N.Y. Times and picked up by many major news outlets around the world.



It's interesting that Coleen Smith's specialty is "Simulation".






Event 201 was a Simulation held in Oct. 2019. Right before the pandemic started.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/ew2S6KISelML/




For those danger seekers who dare to think for themselves, here is a video that looks into Dr. Coleen Smith, Elmhurst Hospital and some of the people promoting the fear. Once again, come to your own conclusions.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/IVeNDUrBuArh/

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:


Due to international travel I've been vaccinated for everything else - Hep A, Hep B, Yellow Fever, Polio booster, DTP periodic (10 years I think), and Typhus periodic (2 years). I've never had a reaction other than mild fly symptoms with the Typhus vaccine but Ibuprofen generally can prevent that if you take it concurrently. I have no doubt that various countries will mandate vaccines to get entry visas, or to avoid quarantine periods. So the sooner the better for me so I can get back on the road when my company allows me to.

Oh believe me, I was too. When I served in the Army and Air Guard we got every shot under the sun you listed plus anthrax and what not. I just am not in a rush to get something that's still considered experimental and no one has any idea whatsoever about what this could do to you in 6 months, a year, two years from now.

The way I see it, the clinical trials are going on right now for this.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Businesses want to limit liability for virus transmission at work, so of course they want you to get the vaccine so they can get back to "normal" faster, so they will promote it as much as they can.

I think it's more likely that businesses want to cover their asses when it comes to potential legal liability if someone claims to have acquired the virus at work. This whole thing is one huge cluster____ .

I asked my company lawyers about this.

They strongly urged us not to make it mandatory, as if someone has an adverse reaction or dies in response, the company is liable.

So your EVP probably knows this and is full of shit.

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Originally posted by PASig:
I had to watch a webinar at work yesterday where our business area EVP and his 3 assembled minons had to basically BEG us all to get the vaccine as soon as we can.

BEGGING.

Why are they begging? That says it all to me right there.

They also keep alluding to making it a condition of employment which scares the crap out of me.

https://www.nih.gov/news-event...er-recovery-covid-19

January 26, 2021

Lasting immunity found after recovery from COVID-19
At a Glance
The immune systems of more than 95% of people who recovered from COVID-19 had durable memories of the virus up to eight months after infection.
The results provide hope that people receiving SARS-CoV-2 vaccines will develop similar lasting immune memories after vaccination.

Time since infection ranged from six days after symptom onset to eight months later. More than 40 participants had been recovered for more than six months before the study began. About 50 people provided blood samples at more than one time after infection.

The research was funded in part by NIH’s National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID) and National Cancer Institute (NCI). Results were published on January 6, 2021, in Science.

The researchers found durable immune responses in the majority of people studied. Antibodies against the spike protein of SARS-CoV-2, which the virus uses to get inside cells, were found in 98% of participants one month after symptom onset. As seen in previous studies, the number of antibodies ranged widely between individuals. But, promisingly, their levels remained fairly stable over time, declining only modestly at 6 to 8 months after infection.

Virus-specific B cells increased over time. People had more memory B cells six months after symptom onset than at one month afterwards. Although the number of these cells appeared to reach a plateau after a few months, levels didn’t decline over the period studied.

Levels of T cells for the virus also remained high after infection. Six months after symptom onset, 92% of participants had CD4+ T cells that recognized the virus. These cells help coordinate the immune response. About half the participants had CD8+ T cells, which kill cells that are infected by the virus.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/st.../1374777986965209100

Researchers in Mexico have made a nose-only Covid mask, which they say reduces the risk of infection of coronavirus during eating and talking.

^^^ I'd love to see the Babylon Bee top that one!

Fauci will be out soon saying we need to wear 2 nose masks covered by 3 face masks!

Dr Fauci recommends butt plugs in public to reduce spread of corona virus

Will you wear one?

410 votes Total

Yes 294 71.7%

No 116 28.3%

Voting closed

Regarding the vax (experimental treatment). I believe I have said it before. If it does not protect you from getting the virus. Or spreading it. And virtually no one is dying from it now, (improved knowledge and treatments).
Then why get it? How is getting it going to change how you currently live your life?

There is so much unknown (to be learned) in the years to come. That until more is known it seem's to me to be "pushed" to get the poke should be viewed with skepticism at the very least.

Probably close to 70% of the world's population is going to forced to get ie: Israel. Or in our country get it because they are scared or tired of the constant, no stop, 24/7 hammering to get. That and some give in and say "I just want it to be over".

If those in power get their way. It will never be over.

The push to get this is unlike anything ever seen and it is going to worse, before it gets better. I have a suspicion.

In the mean time look at all the other things going on around us.

And now the accelerated program... anyone can get it now if 16 or older... BIG push on social media promoting the shot and robot calls to phones. Almost begging people to get it.

Local TV... Dr. pushing the shot... He said you better hurry and get in line, it going to be busy... might run out... people rushing to get it before summer blah blah blah

Only about 25% of the population around here has had the shot, they claimed they need 75% minimum participation for herd immunity.

In other words, seems they can't give the damn shot away!

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Originally posted by cparktd:
And now the accelerated program... anyone can get it now if 16 or older... BIG push on social media promoting the shot and robot calls to phones. Almost begging people to get it.

Local TV... Dr. pushing the shot... He said you better hurry and get in line, it going to be busy... might run out... people rushing to get it before summer blah blah blah

Only about 25% of the population around here has had the shot, they claimed they need 75% minimum participation for herd immunity.

In other words, seems they can't give the damn shot away!

Tons of articles like to one below are designed to dupe the masses into thinking the vaccine is in high demand.
I'm sure lots of doofuses have been suckered in by this propaganda.

Mar 13, 2021
Wealthy people are taking COVID-19 vaccines allotted for others
https://www.axios.com/covid-va...f2-e0690877116a.html


January 25, 2021, 4:06 AM
VIP vaccines: As availability tightens, the wealthy and well-connected push for access
https://abcnews.go.com/US/vip-...ss/story?id=75437334

Dec. 3, 2020
‘There absolutely will be a black market’: How the rich and privileged can skip the line for Covid-19 vaccines
https://www.statnews.com/2020/...or-covid19-vaccines/


Go inside a Best Buy, Walmart or any one of thousands of businesses around the Country and you'll see the employees wearing these masks "Half Ass" .

If businesses were really concerned about the spread of Covid, this would not be the case. This is just for appearances and everyone with half a brain (or more) knows it.

There is no shortage of vax around here, SE PA. Even the local RiteAid has a no-wait clinic for testing and vax. In one County, calls are made by vax staff to friends and family to come get the vax as once that day's vaccine is issued it cannot be returned to storage, and there are a number of no-shows by previously registered people. So use it or lose it by the end of the day.

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://twitter.com/CBSNews/st.../1374777986965209100

Researchers in Mexico have made a nose-only Covid mask, which they say reduces the risk of infection of coronavirus during eating and talking.

Toby had it covered here years ago:

https://www.facebook.com/NoseFilters

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Originally posted by Jupiter:
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This is just for appearances and everyone with half a brain (or more) knows it.

Jupiter...both you and I know this has been the biggest hoax in the history of mankind. 10-15% concern? Sure! Treat it like the flu...if you're susceptible, take measures. 85-90%? ALL POLITICAL! Political...to get rid of President Trump. Political...to install their Golden Child Biden, who can do nothing more than drool in his pudding cup. Political...to see just how far the Leftist Progressives and RINOs can seize power and keep "we the people" chained, suppressed, and controlled.

And yes. A vast...VAST...number of individuals have been duped by the biggest HOAX in the history of mankind.

I'll just leave it at that.....