To add to the monkey's points:

Fact: All we are hearing about is "cases". This is a number that has no context and is LESS THAN meaningless. As a matter of fact, I would call it maliciously harmful. (This is true about almost all of the "information" we have been given.)

Speculation: Not just children, but grown, otherwise (I assume) intelligent adults. Went hiking a couple of weekends ago in NC, and people were either masking up to pass me or jumping off the trail.

SM, all those empty seats that "ate" at every table are going to do serious damage to the turkey inventories at the grocery stores this fall.

I realize many are growing tired of this virus thing and all the nonsense associated with it. I get it. But it's not going to happen overnight and it's going to take time to let this thing run its course and things to be sorted out. So it's going to be best if people can just calm down relax get information from reliable sources . Stay away from the mass media and all their garbage . Stay in contact with loved ones and we'll just ride it out.

If you choose to continuously beat your drum you run the risk of sounding like Fauci, just with a slightly different rhythm

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Originally posted by braillediver:
Out of a population of 8 million people- How many people actively have it now?

Who cares? That's a completely worthless metric. Far better question, how many people are in designated covid ward beds right now, how many are dying each week, and what's the trending for those two metrics? That's the only way to gauge the significance of this bug on a state.

Closer to home, active cases is the only number that matters as those are the only people that can spread it.

There's 190,000 people in my county, probably more since the snowbirds are back. There are currently about 400 active cases. If those people stay home, my chances of running into them are fairly slim. Even slimmer are the chances I spend enough time in close enough proximity to them to catch it.

This was my son's first year on the high school swim team. I got to watch him swim peering through the fence because the powers that be wouldn't allow spectators inside the fence. This accomplished nothing to prevent the spread of the VID as all the parents packed themselves together in few spaces outside the fence where there were gaps in the landscaping so they could see their kids swim.

On another note, the middle school and high school portion of my two youngest kids' school was shutdown last week. The week before, 6 cases in students and 2 cases in teachers were reported. That Friday, only half the students showed up, so the administration decided to go online for a week in 6th-12th grades.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
BD, you are in this thread making this point over and over and over. We get it buddy. Take a break.

Sorry, but I was a Senior Analyst for a lot of years early in my career, and listening to morons in the media and politicians day in and day out openly lie to people with numbers really irritates me. Hospitalizations and deaths overall are both on a downward trend. That's really good news for all of us. I just want people to recognize that the virus seems to be attenuating, the important metrics are moving in the right direction, and even if you do get it, the likelihood you'll die from it is incredibly low (per the CDC) at this point.

School administrators have a hard enough time running the schools much less administering a public health program. Every school district here has a different protocol. Curiously, schools are not major modes of transmission. Their rates are merely reflective of the community. Schools should be open and functioning. The problem with athletics is that they do not have the funds to test every kid. The reason we have college football is a rigorous testing program.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
So then the question is: Do you believe there is no virus? Or do you think you are immune from getting it? Or do you not care if you get it? Or do you think it (virus) is natural occurring and not one engineered by the Chinese? Or something else.

I am not asking about the economic impact or trying to impact the election here. We all know what is going on there. Only asking what you think about the virus and potentially getting it or do you not care. Or is there no virus?

There is a virus (I'm recovered). I had no doubt I would eventually get it, although the source wasn't who I suspected (family instead of work). Something like 30-40% may have some crossover immunity to it. May be natural, may be engineered, but I do believe in either case it did come from that Lab in Wuhan.

I do think that when the vaccine arrives, it will likely be about 50% effective (similar to flu vaccine). Even with the vaccine a lot of people are still going to get it, and the vast majority will survive.

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Originally posted by trapper189:
Closer to home, active cases is the only number that matters as those are the only people that can spread it.

And from a purely analytical point of view I'd debate that point with you as well. Read below...

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There's 190,000 people in my county, probably more since the snowbirds are back. There are currently about 400 active cases. If those people stay home, my chances of running into them are fairly slim. Even slimmer are the chances I spend enough time in close enough proximity to them to catch it.

And unless you're part of an 'at risk' group, again my response would be, who cares? According to the studies I've read, well over 60% of those exposed to the virus (and not having co-morbidities) end up being asymptomatic. The rest suffer through flu like symptoms for a few says and recover without issue. A 'very' small percentage require hospitalization. So if the solution is herd immunity (as many doctors claim and many here believe), why sweat it? Go live your life, earn a paycheck, and enjoy.

When the President is reelected Fauci the backstabber needs to go.

White House Says Fauci Is Playing Politics Over Biden Virus Remarks

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...reaking-2020-11-01-2

The White House lashed out after Dr. Anthony Fauci, the head of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, appeared to praise the campaign of Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden for its stance on the pandemic just days before Election Day.

“It’s unacceptable and breaking with all norms for Dr. Fauci, a senior member of the President’s Coronavirus Task Force and someone who has praised President Trump’s actions throughout this pandemic, to choose three days before an election to play politics,” White House deputy press secretary Judd Deere told news outlets in a statement. “As a member of the Task Force, Dr. Fauci has a duty to express concerns or push for a change in strategy, but he’s not done that.”

Fauci said the United States is “in for a whole lot of hurt” and is “not a good situation,” referring to rising COVID-19 cases in recent days, according to the Washington Post. In the interview, Fauci again warned that the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus would spread in the fall and winter.

Fauci also appeared to praise Biden, saying his campaign “is taking it seriously from a public health perspective,” adding that Trump is “looking at it from a different perspective” by focusing on “the economy and reopening the country.”

Throughout the pandemic this year, Fauci has repeatedly made dire predictions to news outlets, while pushing back the date in which the United States could return to normalcy. It’s drawn criticism from the White House and President Donald Trump.

Also in the interview, Fauci said the last time he spoke with Trump “was not about any policy; it was when he was recovering in Walter Reed, he called me up,” referring to when the president contracted the CCP virus last month and was treated at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center.

Deere, meanwhile, said that Fauci should push for changes internally in his agency, although he instead chose “to criticize the President in the media and make his political leanings known by praising the President’s opponent–exactly what the American people have come to expect from The Swamp.”

Fauci’s office didn’t immediately respond to a request by The Epoch Times for comment.

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We'll start with the fondue platter. Please bring extra bread.

Babs will have the noodles. Her wrist still hurts.

Flounder has the tab. He'll take water.

I'll take a double rye and rock.

We'll pay cash.

We heard Otis Day and the Knights are playing tonight. They know us. Tell them we said hello.

Went hiking today (and pretty much never wear a mask) and was coming toward a woman coming up the trail when she stopped and frantically tried to put on her mask while wearing surgical gloves

*She was also upwind of me.

Heretic! Wear your mask for the good of the people! Even in the pool!!! OBEY!!!!







Me?

I hear there are a bunch of Elmer Fud's and Lizzie Borden's living in Michigan these days.

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Lizzie Borden's

Lizzie Borden took an axe, And gave her mother forty whacks; When she saw what she had done, She gave her father forty-one.

Grew up in Boston, heard that lyric from my grandmother through my mom....that's why I stayed out of Fall River

Stay frosty

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And unless you're part of an 'at risk' group, again my response would be, who cares?...

I'm not, but my parents are. Diabetes, a-fib, replaced heart valve, over 80, blood thinners, etc. They live down the street from me, so I do care.

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Originally posted by trapper189:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:
And unless you're part of an 'at risk' group, again my response would be, who cares?...

I'm not, but my parents are. Diabetes, a-fib, replaced heart valve, over 80, blood thinners, etc. They live down the street from me, so I do care.

Exactly my point. Your parents need to be careful, and you need to be careful around them. I also have 80+ year old parents with health issues, so I know your concerns. Fortunately or unfortunately, my 83 year old father has refused to buy into any of this and continues to live his life as he's always lived it so if the Wu Flu gets him it likely won't be due to anything I did.

Well, my 13 year old son tested positive today. He woke up with a high fever, headache and stomach pain. Now we get to all spend 2 weeks together while being quarantined. Yay.....

That sucks, hope your kid gets over it asap. Keep us updated.

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Originally posted by medic451:
That sucks, hope your kid gets over it asap. Keep us updated.

Thanks. I’m sure he’ll be fine, although he is asthmatic. I’ll be sure to update on how he’s doing.

Things are changing again in the hospitals here. Hospitalizations due to Covid are increasing and they are starting to alter their restrictions again. I really hope they do not start cancelling normal procedures like before. It cost them huge amounts of money before and staff were furloughed.