Herman Cain, a great man and a great American. Extremely sad news of his passing.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
Fear. It is a most powerful drug.

Though politicians and the media are populated with some of the dumbest people on the planet, together they have accomplished one key aspect for a huge majority of our population....they've convinced a majority of the US that if you get the virus, you're going to die. That lie has allowed them to maintain a stranglehold on this country.

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:

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Originally posted by Fenris:
I need to see a double blind gold standard study showing that closing schools and churches will save us all.

Anyone seen those studies?

That is a B-E-A-Utiful response!!!!

I'm still waiting on that conclusive study that mask wearing actually does curb the spread of the virus in the manner they claim. Still waiting....

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Originally posted by bigdeal:I'm still waiting on that conclusive study that mask wearing actually does curb the spread of the virus in the manner they claim. Still waiting....

That's pretty much impossible unless you have a standardized definition of "mask". There's a world of difference between a fitted N95 and the rags most people are wearing. My guess would be that the N95 is pretty dang effective or every dentist in the US (including me) would be infected by now. The single layer bandanas are probably worthless and the surgical masks somewhere in between, but toward the semi-useless end. I am opposed to government mandating something that might kind of-sort of-maybe help.

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I am opposed to government mandating something that might kind of sort of maybe help.

Not to take this off-track, but that's how we got a lot of gun control, ObamaCare and any number of environmental and buisness regulations. We may have to wait until the Kung Flu Hoo Hoo blows over, but there's a fundamental problem in there and it would be really nice to find a way to address it.

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Originally posted by MNSIG:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:I'm still waiting on that conclusive study that mask wearing actually does curb the spread of the virus in the manner they claim. Still waiting....

That's pretty much impossible unless you have a standardized definition of "mask". There's a world of difference between a fitted N95 and the rags most people are wearing. My guess would be that the N95 is pretty dang effective or every dentist in the US (including me) would be infected by now. The single layer bandanas are probably worthless and the surgical masks somewhere in between, but toward the semi-useless end. I am opposed to government mandating something that might kind of-sort of-maybe help.

MNSIG do you use a face shield during a procedure?

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Originally posted by mutedblade:

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TAllen01

Just one quick question for ya:

Do you think we'd be hearing anything about a new vaccine if nobody (and I mean not one fucking person ever) was ever going to make money off of it? Answer honestly and I think you'll have all the reason in the world for hydroxychloroquine + Z-pak and Zinc not "being an effective treatment"! Unass your head. The amount of money in play here is enough to create nations or at least control the politics of nations like ours.

^^^ This right here.

Money, power, and control.
Fuck the FDA, politicians, and all of them.
I have a doctor I trust more than any of them and should be able to do whatever we decide.

No politician, especially ours, should be able to dictate what I can and can’t do as far as treatment.

It’s time to bring this crap to an end.

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
That's pretty much impossible...

Then don't expect me to wear one until they can. Simple. At 50+ and sporting a functioning brain stem, I don't react well to, "Do it because we told you to do it".

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There's a world of difference between a fitted N95 and the rags most people are wearing. My guess would be that the N95 is pretty dang effective...

Really? Apparently CDC has their concerns that masks don't accomplish the desired goal. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/arti...26/5/19-0994_article

and now fauxi Faucci is suggesting we need to wear face shields?

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
and now fauxi Faucci is suggesting we need to wear face shields?

I’ll wear a face shield as soon as that fraud wears a muzzle.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
That's pretty much impossible...

Then don't expect me to wear one until they can. Simple. At 50+ and sporting a functioning brain stem, I don't react well to, "Do it because we told you to do it".


Thus, the last line in my comment.

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There's a world of difference between a fitted N95 and the rags most people are wearing. My guess would be that the N95 is pretty dang effective...

Really? Apparently CDC has their concerns that masks don't accomplish the desired goal. https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/arti...26/5/19-0994_article

That article is not talking about N95s. In fact, it supports my assertion that surgical masks would be toward the useless end of the spectrum.

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Originally posted by midwest guy:
MNSIG do you use a face shield during a procedure?

Yes. Of course, the shield is primarily there to protect the N95 from a direct fluid hit that would contaminate it. Air is free to travel around the sides, so it adds no additional filtration.

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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
I’ll wear a face shield as soon as that fraud wears a muzzle.

Will one like this do for Faucci?

Faucci threw the opening pitch! I'll bet the catcher's mask gave him the idea. twat

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
That article is not talking about N95s. In fact, it supports my assertion that surgical masks would be toward the useless end of the spectrum.

From little more than a common sense point of view, something tells me trying to force me to wear a scrap of t-shirt or tablecloth worn in a half assed manner over my face isn't going to accomplish anything, short of my compliance to the cabal in Washington. Sorry, Homey don't play dat.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
That article is not talking about N95s. In fact, it supports my assertion that surgical masks would be toward the useless end of the spectrum.

From little more than a common sense point of view, something tells me trying to force me to wear a scrap of t-shirt or tablecloth worn in a half assed manner over my face isn't going to accomplish anything, short of my compliance to the cabal in Washington. Sorry, Homey don't play dat.

What the hell are you talking about? That's exactly what I said in my post


My words from halfway up this page:

"The single layer bandanas are probably worthless and the surgical masks somewhere in between, but toward the semi-useless end. I am opposed to government mandating something that might kind of-sort of-maybe help."

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Originally posted by MNSIG:

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by MNSIG:
That article is not talking about N95s. In fact, it supports my assertion that surgical masks would be toward the useless end of the spectrum.

From little more than a common sense point of view, something tells me trying to force me to wear a scrap of t-shirt or tablecloth worn in a half assed manner over my face isn't going to accomplish anything, short of my compliance to the cabal in Washington. Sorry, Homey don't play dat.

What the hell are you talking about? That's exactly what I said in my post


My words from halfway up this page:

"The single layer bandanas are probably worthless and the surgical masks somewhere in between, but toward the semi-useless end. I am opposed to government mandating something that might kind of-sort of-maybe help."

My apologies. I need to stop posting from my phone where I can't readily read the entirety of your post. It appears I accidentally cut out that line of your post.

When they stop all the lies, I might, I say just might, be willing to listen to the self annointed "experts" like Fauci. Well,,, probably not because of having no trust in them at all anymore. There is no doubt, huge money to be made by calling any death a "covid death" as we all are aware of the money paid to facilities that report a virus death. I personally know one person who had it with mild symptoms, was tested twice and the results counted as two positive cases(she was told that by the medical staff). Another person that I know personally had an aged family member die from old age and other problems. The facility wanted to classify it as a virus death and promised that the family would also receive money but to their credit, the family said hell no. I've not heard of a family being offered money before but have no reason to not believe this person.
Masks and the inflated number of cases are all scams that have fooled many gullible people.

the first step in having some sort of 'faith' will be to get rid of Faucci and have someone publicly denounce him as a fraudster and totally incompetent

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
the first step in having some sort of 'faith' will be to get rid of Faucci and have someone publicly denounce him as a fraudster and totally incompetent

And include in that denouncement EVERY Fake News outlet on this planet. They're the sunuvabitches that are perpetuating the bullshit and fear.