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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
July 15, 2020, 12:08 PM
David LeeWhen will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
quote:
Originally posted by Oz_Shadow:
I'm going to toss this one here since I am guessing it is due to Covid-
Anyone else getting Canadian McDonald's paper bags? They have a red maple leaf, text in English and French, and the website printed as McDonalds.ca
I am curious how widespread this is and I suppose we can only guess why. Makes you wonder where the US bags came from before.
The US bags come from Duro. Novolex in northern Kentucky. Micky Ds prolly has a huge stock as they are made in the millions per 3 shifts.
July 15, 2020, 12:12 PM
architectquote:
Originally posted by tleo205:
With all the hysteria over Florida's infection rates, it has now been revealed that many health departments doing the reporting have released false positive results and some have even gone as far as reporting 100% positive test results and ignored negative results. This report is on Fox News.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...16LnNw?ocid=msedgntp
So it sounds like the virus is so deadly powerful that it is exerting some kind of mutant mind control that makes honest well-meaning people lie! "The virus made me do it!"
July 15, 2020, 12:17 PM
parabellum Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibusIf they wanted us to believe them about
anything they claim, they shouldn't have lied to us.
July 15, 2020, 03:41 PM
HRKInteresting study out from Germany, seems that schools being open may not be the risk factor that Doctor Fausi and the CDC are claiming.
In fact they may provide a break on the infection rate....
Link German study finds low Covid-19 infection rate in schools
Tests of pupils and teachers in Saxony suggest children may act as brake on infection
Very few of 2,000 schoolchildren and teachers tested in the German state of Saxony showed antibodies to Covid-19, a study has found, suggesting schools may not play as big a role in spreading the virus as some had feared.
Germany began reopening schools in May, though debate continues as to the role children may play in spreading the virus to vulnerable adults at home as well as to older teachers and school staff.
The study by the University hospital in Dresden analysed blood samples from almost 1,500 children aged between 14 and 18 and 500 teachers from 13 schools in Dresden and the districts of Bautzen and Görlitz in May and June.
The largest study conducted in Germany on schoolchildren and teachers included testing in schools where there were coronavirus outbreaks.
Of the almost 2,000 samples, only 12 had antibodies, said Reinhard Berner , a professor of paediatrics at the hospital, adding that the first results gave no evidence that schoolchildren played a role in spreading the virus particularly quickly.
“Children may even act as a brake on infection,” Berner told a news conference, saying infections in schools had not led to an outbreak, while the spread of the virus within households was also less dynamic than previously thought.
Saxony’s education minister, Christian Piwarz, said the study showed schools in the state could reopen as normal after the summer holiday at the end of August – but with some conditions, such as mask wearing and social distancing where possible.
Berner said the study was representative for the state of Saxony, which has a relatively low rate of infection compared with other parts of Germany.
For other states with low infection rates, the study suggests schools could be reopened without causing widespread outbreaks of the virus, he said.
A separate study of blood donors found antibodies against Covid-19 in only 1.3% of 12,000 samples, the president of the Robert Koch Institute for public health, Prof Lothar Wieler, said.
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July 15, 2020, 04:19 PM
Georgeairquote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Falsus in uno, falsus in omnibus
If they wanted us to believe them about anything they claim, they shouldn't have lied to us.
Isn't this a case of
argumentum falsum dilemma?
While we can't believe anything they tell us, it's also not accurate that nothing is true, completely or partially? Not saying that doesn't make it pretty challenging to suss that out and we shouldn't have to have so much doubt.
Or in the words of Lewis Black, just give us the fact-facts!
You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02
July 15, 2020, 04:33 PM
parabellumquote:
argumentum falsum dilemma
Actually, it's a classic case of
clusterus fuckum.
Unreasonable or no, I am serious when I say that their constant lies mean that I believe nothing they tell us. Infection rates, death rates, Motel 6 rates, what have ya. Whatever they claim, is a complete lie.
The truth does not benefit them, nor are they capable of recognizing the truth in the first place.
Perhaps the term
hyper-skepticism fits the bill.
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July 15, 2020, 04:35 PM
erj_pilotSay that I'm "out there" (really don't care), but I honestly look at this face mask nonsense as some level of the "Mark of the Beast". Was just having this passing conversation with a buddy of mine over dinner last week and I related what it says in the Bible...
"It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name." - Revelation 13:16-17
Just replace "receive a mark on their right hands or on their foreheads" with "wear Government-mandated face masks" and there you have it. No face mask? Unable to conduct commerce.
So, to restate the verse,
"It also forced all people, great and small, rich and poor, free and slave, to wear Government-mandated face masks, so that they could not buy or sell unless they had the mask, which is the name of the beast or the number of its name."Just my humble thought for the day.....
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 July 15, 2020, 06:38 PM
BlackTalonJHPquote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Revelation 13:16-17
We should be thankful that Rev 13 is talking about a past event and not a future one.
July 15, 2020, 06:57 PM
erj_pilot
"If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne
"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 July 15, 2020, 07:27 PM
midwest guyI know one thing for sure, I wouldn’t cross Governor Kay Ivey!
July 15, 2020, 07:43 PM
trapper189quote:
Originally posted by BlackTalonJHP:
We should be thankful that Rev 13 is talking about a past event and not a future one.
It refers to both if you believe history is doomed to repeat itself.
July 15, 2020, 10:04 PM
Scurvyquote:
Originally posted by tleo205:
With all the hysteria over Florida's infection rates, it has now been revealed that many health departments doing the reporting have released false positive results and some have even gone as far as reporting 100% positive test results and ignored negative results. This report is on Fox News.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...16LnNw?ocid=msedgntp
My understanding is they just sent in their positive test results and not the negatives. No one falsified any info and it ultimately didn't impact the total number of positive cases. The labs just got lazy and decided to not bother sending in the negatives. It seems like much ado about nothing.
I dont see how one report saying "we had 100 positive tests" vs one saying "we had 100 positive tests and 900 negatives" makes any practical difference. I'm guessing thats why some labs didn't bother.
July 15, 2020, 10:10 PM
bigdealIf you had any remaining thoughts that this guy isn't an arrogant, narcissistic, prick, I offer this. This guy can't go away soon enough.
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July 15, 2020, 10:43 PM
Scuba Steve SigHe should really be wearing floaties, goggles, nose plugs, and a swimming hat that close to the pool. Safety is our first concern.
July 16, 2020, 01:18 AM
AckksSo how does Florida not reporting the negatives impact the daily numbers? False positives?
July 16, 2020, 01:41 AM
NuclearIt's like this: if I tell you we tested 100 people and they all tested positive, that means the virus is spreading and infecting everyone. If I tell you we tested 10,000 people and only 100 tested positive, that means only 1% of those tested have been infected, and the disease isn't spreading fast at all.
July 16, 2020, 01:47 AM
NuclearNow the whole false positives and false negatives reveal how accurate the test is, and how much confidence we should have in the numbers as a whole. Since the authorities REFUSE to publish error bars or confidence intervals in the active case tests, that means the tests aren't the "gold standard" they keep telling us they are. Notice the accuracy of the antibody test is acknowledged to be about 80%, so I'm thinking the active test might be worse than that.
July 16, 2020, 01:53 AM
AckksThank you.
July 16, 2020, 03:31 AM
FenrisThere are none so dishonest as woke scientists pursuing the agenda.
God Bless and Protect our Beloved President, Donald John Trump. July 16, 2020, 05:45 AM
XinTXquote:
Originally posted by kkina:
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Next the super bees.
No, no. They're "murder hornets" that kill bees.
Don't forget the Plague Squirrels
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