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Originally posted by cooger:
Does anyone know about the accuracy of the antibody tests?

I had two antibody tests about a month apart.
The first came back positive. The second negative.

That doesn't surprise me.
The antibodies have been found to disappear in a month or two.
Which makes a vaccine unlikely. It would be like a flu shot. You would have to get one every year, you might not have the right strain, and it would only last a couple of months?

GA Gator:
Glad to hear you made it through and hope that it is your only bout.
My best friend lost his brother a few days back. Retired AF and 62 years old, super condition as he was an ironman competitor. Went into the hospital for a joint replacement and got infected presumably during those 2 days. Showed symptoms a week later and died in the hospital after a 2.5 week stay.
Dude could afford the best treatment but it didn't save him.
For those thinking this is a hoax, his family doesn't think so. For those thinking this is just like the flu, what flu continues to peak during the hottest part of the summer?
Take care and take precautions.

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Retired AF and 62 years old, super condition as he was an ironman competitor. Went into the hospital for a joint replacement and got infected presumably during those 2 days. Showed symptoms a week later and died in the hospital after a 2.5 week stay.

Wow. Sorry to hear that...
GA Gator: Glad to hear you are doing better!

This morning my mother accompanied my stepfather to a local hospital for outpatient surgery. Decent regional hospital chain, neither bottom nor top end.

She was allowed to accompany him to his room, and stay in that room while he was in surgery and recovery, and was told she could take off her mask when she was alone in the room waiting for him.

Seems rather casual / not crazy. I was surprised.

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Originally posted by Fenris:

I had two antibody tests about a month apart.

The first came back positive. The second negative.

But funny enough both were reported as positive in the state numbers

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For those thinking this is just like the flu, what flu continues to peak during the hottest part of the summer?

According to the article pasted earlier today, this is not like the flu. Rather, a "mundane cold".

Cooper here In NC just extended his Safer at Home Executive Decree three weeks past the original expiration date of July 17. I’m not even sure what that entails anymore, but I think bars and fitness centers won’t be re-opening any time soon.

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Which makes a vaccine unlikely. It would be like a flu shot. You would have to get one every year, you might not have the right strain...

The nature of the corona virus makes it less likely to naturally change, requiring 'new, updated' vaccines every year, as happens with flu viruses.

Of course, we are not convinced that the Cov-19 occurred naturally. It was likely engineered.

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It was likely engineered.

Same with the platypus. No way a platypus just occurred naturally. They have venom even.

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It was likely engineered.

Same with the platypus. No way a platypus just occurred naturally. They have venom even.

First the COVID. Next the super bees. Now venomous platypusses (platypii?). We're doomed!

I found the vaccine. Friend was kind enough to share a couple. The way it tastes I'm sure it would kill the virus!

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Next the super bees.

No, no. They're "murder hornets" that kill bees.

That's right.

The Super Bee is a Mopar

The World Health Organisation announced Monday that it will not be visiting the Wuhan Institute of Virology during its investigation into the origins of the coronavirus, despite the fact that the lab held samples of coronavirus that were almost exactly the same as that which caused a global pandemic.

The Worst Is Over For Arizona's COVID Breakout

Several months ago, the coronavirus pandemic mutated from a purely epidemiological phenomenon and became a full-blown political issue, with clear ideological divisions forming along the lines of whether or not to pursue strict shutdowns (and in some cases, whether to engage in another round of economic closures) all the way down to whether masks should be worn. The drivers here were self-evident: opponents of Trump and the current administration demanded even more caution, in some cases arguably in pursuit self-serving hopes of further economic pain (and more stimulus payments) that would make a Trump re-election difficult; in light of this it is understandable why the president hoped to put the pandemic in the rearview mirror and to accelerate the reopening of the economy which has cost tens of millions in jobs and trillions in new debt.

In recent weeks, a similar divide has also emerged on Wall Street, where pessimists such as Goldman have been emphasizing the recent surge in new cases across sunbelt states, warning that these would result in another spike in deaths, as well as reduction in mobility and overall cosumption and thus a fresh hit to the economy, as a new round of shutdowns - either mandatory or voluntary - were enacted. Optimists, meanwhile, would note that higher cases are merely a function of widespread testing...

Last week, in a note that was clearly in the "optimistic" camp, BofA's Hans Mikkelsen wrote that sharply elevated new daily Covid-19 case numbers highlight first and foremost more successful testing strategies (more tests, contact tracing, etc.), according to the University of Washington IHME model.

The strategist also said that "to gauge the spread of Covid-19 we prefer to look at number of hospitalized people that, although a bit lagged (in March/April the peak in number of hospitalized came 17 days after the peak in newly infected, according to the IHME model), is less dependent on testing strategy."



While hospitalizations were clearly up in the U.S., BofA pointed out that if one excludes the four states "we find they are more accurately described as flat lining." Moreover, BofA calculates that in the new outbreak the daily number of infected people peaked on June 21st at 75,179, up from 71,112 on June 1st, and sharply above yesterday's 69,987 estimate, again according to the IHME model.

The optimistic conclusion: "Should hospitalizations again be lagged 17 days that would imply (local) peak hospitalizations on July 8."

Fast forward to today, when following several weeks of downbeat comments, Goldman may have also turned somewhat optimistic on US chances, with chief economist Jan Hatzius (we are all epidemiologists now) writing that "today, confirmed new cases (7-day moving average) are now lower compared to one week ago" and noting that "it is possible that case growth could be at the beginning of a sustained downward trajectory" even though as he concedes, the positive test rate remains very high, and virus spread is weighing significantly on the state's available hospital resources. A sustained decline in new cases would take several days to translate to lower hospitalizations and more available hospital capacity.

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...eakout-goldman-finds

I'm going to toss this one here since I am guessing it is due to Covid-

Anyone else getting Canadian McDonald's paper bags? They have a red maple leaf, text in English and French, and the website printed as McDonalds.ca

I am curious how widespread this is and I suppose we can only guess why. Makes you wonder where the US bags came from before.

I just heard from a radio news station that Wal Mart, Sams Club, Best Buy and Starbucks are going to be forcing masks on customers starting next week. Yes, the virus has never, ever been more deadly, masks are mankind’s last hope for life on earth.

Walmart, Sam's Club make coronavirus masks mandatory
Walmart 'Health Ambassadors' will enforce policy...
https://www.foxbusiness.com/li...-club-face-mask-shop

With all the hysteria over Florida's infection rates, it has now been revealed that many health departments doing the reporting have released false positive results and some have even gone as far as reporting 100% positive test results and ignored negative results. This report is on Fox News.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...16LnNw?ocid=msedgntp

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