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Austin, TX, my once favorite city in America, has been absolutely decimated by Californian bitches for over a decade now. Who’d a thunk it? Today Austin passed some mask fine bullshit. You can be fined up to $2,000 if you don’t wear a mask in public by APD. Wow! Eek



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That Sheriff just said the funniest thing I have heard since all this shit began. Don’t call me, call the Health Department. Maybe they (Health Department) can put up a little yellah light on the top of their car and they can stop people LMFAO! Damn! Hahaha.



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You can be fined up to $2,000 if you don’t wear a mask in public by APD. Wow! Eek
Any PD that's chickenshit enough to enforce these BS mandates 'should' be defunded.


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Have a look before this is taken down:



https://youtu.be/wPs3_0vPv90




 
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^^^Excellent video, thanks for posting.


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Death By Policy

Mortality statistics show that many people have died from lockdown-related causes, not from Covid-19.

Many years ago, one of my duties as a young surgical intern was to fill out death certificates for recently deceased patients. Under “cause of death,” Part I asked for the immediate cause, other conditions leading to it, and the underlying cause. Part II asked for “other significant conditions contributing to death but not resulting in the underlying cause given in Part I.” If you think this is confusing, you’re right. Did the post-operative patient found dead in bed really die of a heart attack, a pulmonary embolism, or some operative complication, like bleeding? Where do you list their colon cancer or hypertension?

The task has not gotten any easier during the Covid-19 pandemic. People are still dying of heart disease, stroke, cancer, and accidents. But now there is a new respiratory illness to account for. Not every decedent who tested positive for the virus that causes Covid-19 died from it—in fact, the disease is mild for most people. Conversely, some deaths due to Covid-19 may be erroneously assigned to other causes of death because the people were never tested, and Covid-19 was not diagnosed. Nearly everyone dying of Covid-19 has concurrent health problems—the average decedent has 2.5 co-morbid conditions—and hypertension, heart disease, respiratory diseases, and diabetes are among the most common. The presence and interaction of these co-morbid conditions is what sometimes changes Covid-19 from a relatively benign disease into a killer. But co-morbidities can also cause death regardless of Covid-19.

A common way to distinguish the mortality burden of a new infectious agent from other causes of death is to estimate the excess deaths that occurred beyond what would be expected if the pathogen had not circulated. A recent study of 48 states and the District of Columbia estimated 122,300 excess deaths during the pandemic period of March 1 to May 30, compared with expected deaths calculated from the previous five years. Deaths officially attributed to Covid-19 accounted for 78 percent of the total; approximately 27,000 deaths (22 percent) were not attributed to Covid-19. A second study, using the same database with different statistical methods for the period March 1 to April 25, found that 65 percent of 87,000 excess deaths were attributed to Covid-19.

Only part of the discrepancy between excess deaths and official Covid deaths results from undercounting of Covid deaths. In New York City, when excess deaths between March 11 (the first recorded Covid-19 death) and May 2 were examined, only 57 percent had laboratory-confirmed Covid-19. Yet when probable deaths—deaths for which Covid-19, SARS-CoV-2, or an equivalent term was listed on the death certificate as an immediate, underlying, or contributing cause of death, but that did not have laboratory confirmation of Covid-19—were added in, 22 percent of excess deaths were still not attributed to Covid-19.

The indirect effect of the pandemic—deaths caused by the social and economic responses to the pandemic, including lockdowns—appears to explain the balance. For instance, people delayed needed medical care because they were instructed to shelter in place, were too scared to go to the doctor, or were unable to obtain care because of limitations on available care, including a moratorium on elective procedures.

Inpatient admissions nationwide in VA hospitals, the nation’s largest hospital system, were down 42 percent for six emergency conditions—stroke, myocardial infarction (MI), heart failure, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease, appendicitis, and pneumonia—during six weeks of the Covid-19 pandemic (March 11 to April 21) compared with the six weeks immediately prior (January 29 to March 10). The drop was significant for all six conditions and ranged from a decrease of 40 percent for MI to 57 percent for appendicitis. No such decrease in admissions was found for the same six-week period in 2019. These emergency conditions did not become any less lethal as a result of the pandemic; rather, people simply died from acute illnesses that would have been treated in normal times.

Deaths from chronic, non-emergent conditions also increased as patients put off maintenance visits and their medical conditions deteriorated. In the second study of excess deaths, the five states with the most Covid-19 deaths from March through April (Massachusetts, Michigan, New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania), experienced large proportional increases in deaths from non-respiratory underlying causes, including diabetes (96 percent), heart diseases (89 percent), Alzheimer’s disease (64 percent), and cerebrovascular diseases (35 percent). New York City—the nation’s Covid-19 epicenter during that period—experienced the largest increases in non-respiratory deaths, notably from heart disease (398 percent) and diabetes (356 percent).

Cancer diagnoses were delayed for months as patients were unable to obtain “elective” screening procedures. For some, this will result in more advanced disease. Diagnosed cancer cases—normally treated with surgery or inpatient medical treatments—were treated with outpatient treatments instead. While some oncologists rationalized that the results might be just as good, physicians were clearly deviating from the standard of care.

The lockdowns led to wide unemployment and economic recession, resulting in increased drug and alcohol abuse and increases in domestic abuse and suicides. Most studies in a systematic literature review found a positive association between economic recession and increased suicides. Data from the 2008 Great Recession showed a strong positive correlation between increasing unemployment and increasing suicide in middle aged (45–64) people. Ten times as many people texted a federal government disaster mental-distress hotline in April 2020 as in April 2019.

As we consider how to deal with resurgent numbers of Covid cases, we must acknowledge that mitigation measures like shelter-in-place and lockdowns appear to have contributed to the death toll. The orders were issued by states and localities in late March; excess deaths peaked in the week ending April 11. Reopening began in mid-April, and by May 20 all states that had imposed orders started to lift restrictions. In June, as the economy continued reopening, excess deaths waned.

Our focus must be on ensuring that the health-care system can simultaneously treat Covid-19 and other maladies and reassuring patients that it is safe to seek care. Otherwise, today’s young physicians will have to start entering a new cause of death on death certificates—“public policy.”

Joel Zinberg, M.D., J.D., is an associate clinical professor of surgery at the Mount Sinai Icahn School of Medicine in New York and was general counsel and senior economist at the Council of Economic Advisers 2017–2019, where he specialized in health policy. The views expressed here are his own.

https://www.city-journal.org/d...of-lockdown-policies



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^^^^^^^^^^
Good article. Thank you for posting.
 
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So I'm a department chair at work (a school), and we just got the draft of our schedule/'rona plan for the 2020-2021 academic year.

Even if we are physically in the building, we're losing a minimum of 25% of our instructional contact time across the board. Co- and extra-curriculars are basically a no-go for the year, regardless, and athletics may be also a wash. Area heads of school are all going to decide at the end of summer.

A 25% loss is close to crippling (and in my MS classes, I'm literally losing 50% of my contact time, down to 2 45-min meetings per week).

And that's just in the best case scenario when every kid is on campus. The invisible lost time of a hybrid model (either on/off weeks or half the kids in, half the kids out at a given time) or online model are even greater.

This is the "new normal": we're selling our kids up shit creek without a paddle because of media sensationalism and leftist authoritarianism.

Fuck them one and all.


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This is the Havana solution. Here:
 
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JACKSON, Miss. (WLBT) - Due to increased demand, the Mississippi Alcoholic Beverage Control is stopping orders so it can keep up.

From July 10 to July 20, ABC is temporarily suspending the ability to place liquor orders.

ABC says they have a 29% increase in case sales over the last four months; they’ve shipped more than 1.3 million cases of wine and spirits in that time.

They will continue to ship out the 100,000 cases in their system as orders are suspended.

LINK: https://www.wlox.com/2020/07/1...s-halts-orders-days/
 
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I followed the thread early but not so much lately.

Have any members contracted it and post first hand experiences?

I contracted it this week symptoms began last night. I was tested and it was positive.

This virus is an ass kicker. Fever at 101.7 - 101.5 without tylenol. I am absolutely exhausted. This is easily as bad as the worse flu I have ever had.

I have never lost time before, I am so lethargic I drift off the sleep and drift back to consciousness without realizing I was sleeping. I look at the time and an hour passed, and I didn't realize it.


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Even if we are physically in the building, we're losing a minimum of 25% of our instructional contact time across the board. Co- and extra-curriculars are basically a no-go for the year, regardless, and athletics may be also a wash.
And my first response to this would be...why? We're being told how things are going to be by a lot of people without any explanation or Q&A at all. I think it incumbent on all of to put the screws to these people and make them explain their decisions.

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Area heads of school are all going to decide at the end of summer.
Just curious but why are the schools administrators making these decisions? I would hope such sweeping decisions would either be made at the school board level and/or through the city/county mayor's office.


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JACKSON, Miss. (WLBT) - Due to increased demand, the Mississippi Alcoholic Beverage Control is stopping orders so it can keep up.

From July 10 to July 20, ABC is temporarily suspending the ability to place liquor orders.


ABC? WTF?
What kind of commie state do you live in?
Wouldn't it be better to have a free-market to handle supply disruptions in this essential industry?



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Look we just eliminated Prohibiton last week. The ABC board has been in charge forever. It is a short drive to LA to get whatever you need at a much lower price. See below:

The state of Mississippi is officially ending Prohibition, almost 90 years after alcohol was legalized in the United States. A new law allowing the possession of alcohol in every county in Mississippi was signed into law by Gov. Tate Reeves on Tuesday. It will go into effect on Jan. 1, 2021.Jul 2, 2020
 
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Are the counties that Gov Reeves just mandated face masks in public the higher populated areas in Mississippi?
 
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The city of Augusta GA just instituted a mandatory mask policy for 30 days (following Atlanta, Athens, and a few others). The governor, however, says it's unenforceable.




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Are the counties that Gov Reeves just mandated face masks in public the higher populated areas in Mississippi?

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The metro area in Jackson, the two coastal counties and the county near Memphis are the most populated. There have been outliers in the past that are very rural areas as well. The Choctaw reservation has a high rate of infection and death.
 
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Area heads of school are all going to decide at the end of summer.
Just curious but why are the schools administrators making these decisions? I would hope such sweeping decisions would either be made at the school board level and/or through the city/county mayor's office.


These are private schools in a league with no public schools, so the HOSs are the ultimate arbiters of the league.


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The city of Augusta GA just instituted a mandatory mask policy for 30 days (following Atlanta, Athens, and a few others). The governor, however, says it's unenforceable.


I bet the Masters gets the axe.


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What kind of commie state do you live in?
Wouldn't it be better to have a free-market to handle supply disruptions in this essential industry?

Pssssst. That's the stuff in the Mason jars.
 
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