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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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May 28, 2020, 12:58 PM
46and2
When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
TSA 2.0
May 28, 2020, 01:04 PM
BigSwede
quote:
Originally posted by cparktd:
quote:
Originally posted by PASig:

Around here the Home Depot you line up....
....At Lowes you can just walk right in



Lowes here put up their plexiglas shields and 6 foot marks and apparently require their employees to wear mask But they leave the customers completely unmolested and they are doing a booming business. More than they have ever done since they opened here.
Good for them!


Slap a 10% Veterans discount on top of that and I'm yours, I don't shop at Home Depot at all



May 28, 2020, 01:48 PM
WaterburyBob
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
I suggested that in the very early pages of this thread.

Was it truly necessary to full-quote the entire damn post to make your one-sentence point?

How many times does the boss have to ask y'all to stop doing that before it sinks in?

I apologize, but that editing is difficult on my tablet.



"If Gun Control worked, Chicago would look like Mayberry, not Thunderdome" - Cam Edwards
May 28, 2020, 02:10 PM
parabellum
Good God, the news media in this country. Sick, sick, sick.

Here they are celebrating (the quoted but almost certainly far from correct) death figure of 100,000.


May 28, 2020, 02:52 PM
ZSMICHAEL
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As I see my state opening back up, I predict things will be back to normal faster than many think. Just follow the money, I predict full sports stadiums this football season even.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe NFL, College no. Hope you are right.
May 28, 2020, 03:17 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by WaterburyBob:
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
Was it truly necessary to full-quote the entire damn post to make your one-sentence point?

I apologize, but that editing is difficult on my tablet.

Understood. That's why I don't often quote on follow-ups when posting from my tablet--much less my phone.

Thing is: When you don't go through that difficulty, you make it difficult for everyone reading the thread--particularly those who, like you, are reading from screen-real-estate-limited devices.



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
May 28, 2020, 03:20 PM
ensigmatic
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Here [is the media] celebrating (the quoted but almost certainly far from correct) death figure of 100,000.

On one of the local "news" broadcasts last night they almost seemed to be salivating over the prospect of being able to soon report hitting that "milestone."

Yeah, pretty damn disgusting.



"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe
"If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
May 28, 2020, 03:47 PM
Plugugly
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
This is from the Associated Press, not The Onion or the Babylon Bee:


https://twitter.com/AP_Images/.../1266005207386927104


It didn't work for Maxwell Smart, why do they think it will work now?
May 28, 2020, 03:58 PM
chellim1
"Many believe that U.S. soldiers brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Others believe that the U.S. has hidden key information, which led to the global health crisis. Why can’t Chinese citizens and companies sue the U.S. government?"
Roll Eyes

China Proposes A Law Allowing Citizens To Sue US For Starting Coronavirus Pandemic

One month ago, the state of Missouri became the first in the nation to file a lawsuit against China over their role in the coronavirus pandemic. Also named in the suit were the Communist Party of China, the government of Wuhan City, and the Wuhan Institute of Virology, along with the Chinese Academy of Sciences. Filed in late April in the Eastern District of Missouri, Missouri Attorney General Eric Schmitt accused China of knowing that "COVID-19 was dangerous and capable of causing a pandemic, yet slowly acted, proverbially put their head in the sand, and/or covered it up in their own economic self-interest."

Yet in a world where China has likewise accused the US of creating the coronavirus, why where there no lawsuits seeking similar damages from the US? Well, there will be soon: according to the Post, China’s legislature has proposed drafting a sovereign immunity law that would allow Chinese citizens to pursue legal actions against the United States over the coronavirus pandemic.

Citing China’s state-run media, the report said the Communist Party is seeking to amend an existing law that would allow legal action against “other countries.”

The Chinese lawmaker leading the efforts, Ma Yide, told the Global Times that the law would "ensure Chinese citizens’ and companies’ rights to sue the Us over its blame game and cover-up of information during the pandemic." Ma said one of the things Chinese citizens should be able to sue over is the claim from the Chinese Foreign Ministry that the US military brought the coronavirus to China.

"Many believe that U.S. soldiers brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Others believe that the U.S. has hidden key information, which led to the global health crisis. Why can’t Chinese citizens and companies sue the U.S. government?" Ma told Chinese media.

If the proposal should pass, Chinese residents could move ahead with lawsuits that are beginning to surface.

Liang Xuguang, a lawyer from Wuhan where the first cases were reported in late December, has sued the US government, accusing it of spreading misinformation, the report said.

The proposal set forth in China’s National People’s Congress which concluded today, would naturally be in retaliation for lawsuits brought against China and the ruling Communist Party by several US states and a number of countries around the world.

The suits, one of which was noted above, accuse China of silencing doctors who were raising alarms that the coronavirus was a contagious respiratory disease in the early days of the outbreak and of pressuring foreign countries not to impose travel restrictions on Chinese nationals. They also claim China used its influence with the World Health Organization to downplay the severity of the outbreak.

In addition to Missouri, Mississippi has also sued the Chinese Communist Party, while Texas, New York and Florida have taken legal action against China.

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...coronavirus-pandemic



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
May 28, 2020, 04:00 PM
Il Cattivo
Because all it has to do is keep the city health inspectors off of their backs. KAOS is generally more competent.
May 28, 2020, 04:45 PM
Prefontaine
quote:
Originally posted by ensigmatic:
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
Here [is the media] celebrating (the quoted but almost certainly far from correct) death figure of 100,000.

On one of the local "news" broadcasts last night they almost seemed to be salivating over the prospect of being able to soon report hitting that "milestone."

Yeah, pretty damn disgusting.


They reported the 100k thing last night on Fox News in Dallas, the local Fox channel, nightly local news. They covered it but definitely weren't doing backflips about it. Covid isn't dominating the nightly local news anymore. I think they spent more time on the Minnesota riots and local high school graduation ceremonies than they did Covid. My county is still at like .001 or .002 of the population affected with it.

My gym finally opens back up Monday and they are talking about opening up our local water parks over the next 2 weeks so shit is starting to get to normal, the beginning phases. We are having more cases per day here, and more deaths but it's not sensational like the national news outlets report.

I had to do a vendor escort at my office today to clear some alarms and work was a ghost town but we are having a phased approach with people going back in the office slowly starting in a week. All I do is not face touch, regularly sanitize my hands and wear the fucking mask where I have to/required.

I even went by my gym, banged on the door and talked to the new manager. He said masks are optional for members, but all staff will have them on. They will open for 1 hour increments only starting Monday and in the beginning so they can hose the place down between appointment groups. Thank Jesus. Two weeks appointments go to 1.5 hours. I think they are just CYA at this point.

Sounds like in a month we'll mostly be back to normal.



What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone
May 28, 2020, 05:25 PM
V-Tail
quote:
Originally posted by BigSwede:

Slap a 10% Veterans discount on top of that and I'm yours, I don't shop at Home Depot at all
I am not fan of Home Depot, but they gave me a lot less hassle about the 10% Veterans discount.

Lowe's, I had to go through a whole sign-up procedure, with all sorts of verification.

Home Depot, I just show my Driver License, with the Veteran indicator, at checkout, and I get the 10% discount.



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May 28, 2020, 05:46 PM
ewills
Local indoor shooting range in Ashburn opens up on Saturday. Members only, requiring appointments to visit. They say masks are strongly recommended. Guess I'll find out Monday afternoon if they require them.

Looking forward to shooting again.....
May 28, 2020, 05:58 PM
BigSwede
quote:
Originally posted by V-Tail:
quote:
Originally posted by BigSwede:

Slap a 10% Veterans discount on top of that and I'm yours, I don't shop at Home Depot at all
I am not fan of Home Depot, but they gave me a lot less hassle about the 10% Veterans discount.

Lowe's, I had to go through a whole sign-up procedure, with all sorts of verification.

Home Depot, I just show my Driver License, with the Veteran indicator, at checkout, and I get the 10% discount.


There is a sign up procedure online but after that you just give them your phone number.



May 28, 2020, 06:01 PM
Skins2881
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Originally posted by parabellum:
These businesses are aiding you in mapping your future choices of which businesses you should give your money. My suggestion is to have a long, long memory in this respect. Don't forget how they treated their customers.


Well you might want to add Restoration Hardware to that list. Was there today to do some work. The store is closed, but employees bare there and you can make an appointment to shop.

After a minute or two the manager asked "what happened to your mask?" "What mask?" "I thought you were wearing one?" "Nope." "Well you can't come inside without one." "I just did. Fine, I'll be right back."

After that whole thing I get my personal information taken down, and a mini medical exam. I guess they are tracking every person that walks in their door.

Fuck that place.

Additionally the stupid ass manager wanted to waste my time and tell me how to do my job. Problem was with a hydraulic elevator for unloading trucks. She says it goes up, but won't go down, it's an electrical problem. "Nope, it's not". "Yes it is." "How do you know that?" "You just told me." "What?" "You said it works one way, but not the other, so it's got power." "But it's a electrical problem." "Nope." "It is." "Still nope."

That went on for like five minutes of me explaining if it has power going in one direction, it has power period. Finally I got her to understand that it had power. Tested controls, contactors, fuses, etc. Told her there was nothing I could do. I wanted so bad to just tell her how stupid she was being, both mask and common knowledge. Instead I walked the line of patronizing and polite, maybe crossed it a tiny bit, but my God she and her companies policies were stupid.



Jesse

Sic Semper Tyrannis
May 28, 2020, 06:07 PM
BamaJeepster
My local gun shop posted this today. I like those guys Smile





“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams
May 28, 2020, 06:27 PM
slosig
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
My local gun shop posted this today. I like those guys Smile

Something tells me that if you told them your health reason is that you have a healthy aversion to bovine effluent they’d laugh and welcome you right in.
May 28, 2020, 06:28 PM
Lefty Sig
quote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
"Many believe that U.S. soldiers brought the epidemic to Wuhan. Others believe that the U.S. has hidden key information, which led to the global health crisis. Why can’t Chinese citizens and companies sue the U.S. government?"
Roll Eyes

China Proposes A Law Allowing Citizens To Sue US For Starting Coronavirus Pandemic
https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...coronavirus-pandemic


The CCP is more afraid of their own people and what will happen if 1 Billon Chinese rise up en masse and overrun the major cities, including Beijing. Despite dense populations of the major cities, they comprise maybe a third of the population. With the Great Firewall of China, and their Surveillance State, it is all about controlling the masses and keeping the CCP in power.

The accusation against the US Soldiers is pure propaganda to divert blame from the CCP. They don't care how absurd it sounds to anyone in the world, except that the average Chinese citizen believes it. The narrative that foreign people brought the WuFlu to China has resulted in a lockdown of the border and poor treatment of non-Chinese including refusal to serve at restaurants and refusal to rent hotel rooms. Unfortunately, Africans seem to be the worst treated, despite the fact that Africa had nothing to do with the WuFlu, but you know, Ebola and AIDS, so they must be contagious with something. The sad part is that it seems to be working.
May 28, 2020, 06:33 PM
BamaJeepster
quote:
Originally posted by slosig:
quote:
Originally posted by BamaJeepster:
My local gun shop posted this today. I like those guys Smile

Something tells me that if you told them your health reason is that you have a healthy aversion to bovine effluent they’d laugh and welcome you right in.


Absolutely. The tyrant's order stipulated that health reasons are exempted and they can't ask what your condition is, so we will see which businesses really want my business or which ones will go full tyrant mode.



“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.”
- John Adams
May 28, 2020, 06:41 PM
holdem
quote:
Originally posted by ARman:

While there, I had to use the restroom, I walk in there is one guy already there. Another guy follows me in. They were both in their 40's. They both had masks on. They both finished their business before me, and walked out of the restroom without washing their hands.

I have seen this before. Take a piss, having a mask on and not washing their damn hands! WTH is wrong with these people?


Shortly after all of this panic started, I half jokingly / half seriously told my wife, "If you want to solve this problem, the government needs to run PSA's on every TV and radio station over and over again informing men that they need to wash their hands after using the restroom. And then every public business needs to post an employee in all men's rooms and no man is allowed to enter until he agrees to wash his hands after he is done and if he does leave without washing his hands, he is trespassed from the business and not allowed to return. Heck, not only will we stop coronovirus in its tracks, we will probably drastically reduce the flu and common cold while we are at it."