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And the officer with whom I agreed and spoke too much common sense was fired.

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That is completely f-ed up. That man did nothing wrong and lost his job over a video. Wow.



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That's rich coming from someone who would refuse to wear a mask when sick, therefore risking the health of others for their own feelings.


What kind of nanny state crap is this that? The same argument is made by EVERY FUCKING GUN GRABBING WHORE. "my childs safety is more important than yours".....sounds familiar doesn't it? If you think I am killing you or anyone else by not wearing a mask, I have a bridge to sell you.

Side_shot brings up a good point with his post. The difference with everyone born before the Vietnam war (and some others, like myself) is that they know they are mortal and therefore will at some point or another die. It's how you lived that will define you.


It's astounding to me that people would rather live in a society that has no semblance of freedom, food shortages, rampant unemployment, stagnant economy, and perpetual misery instead of MAYBE catching the sniffles and living like we have in decades past.


It's not nanny state crap at all. It's do the right thing because it's the right thing to do, and don't whine about "you only care about yourself" while doing something because you only care about yourself.

It's not about "you're killing me by not wearing a mask". That's hyperbolic nonsense and a straw man unworthy of rational discussion.

Food shortages, rampant unemployment, stagnant economy and perpetual misery is not a side effect of taking reasonable precautions to not infect others when you're sick and wearing the damned mask.
 
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Let me ask you. Have you ever in your entire life walked around with a face covering prior to this current chinese virus?


No, and I still haven't. But then I'm not sick.

If you're sick, you should do it. If I get sick, I'll do it. Why? Because I don't want to get other people sick, and the mask may help with that.
 
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Let me ask you. Have you ever in your entire life walked around with a face covering prior to this current chinese virus?

No, and I still haven't. But then I'm not sick.
If you're sick, you should do it. If I get sick, I'll do it. Why? Because I don't want to get other people sick, and the mask may help with that.

So you’ve never been sick?


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Let me ask you. Have you ever in your entire life walked around with a face covering prior to this current chinese virus?

No, and I still haven't. But then I'm not sick.
If you're sick, you should do it. If I get sick, I'll do it. Why? Because I don't want to get other people sick, and the mask may help with that.

So you’ve never been sick?


Not with a virus with these unique characteristics.

Actually, if I'm sick I won't be going out. That's what I usually do. And guess what? If you don't go out you don't need to wear a mask. Problem solved.

For what it's worth, I've always appreciated how in many countries it's perfectly normal to wear a mask during illness. It's considered respectful of others, and it's probably contributed to the lower impact of this particular virus in those countries.
 
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No, and I still haven't. But then I'm not sick.
If you're sick, you should do it. If I get sick, I'll do it. Why? Because I don't want to get other people sick, and the mask may help with that.

So you’ve never been sick?

Not with a virus with these unique characteristics.
Actually, if I'm sick I won't be going out. That's what I usually do. And guess what? If you don't go out you don't need to wear a mask. Problem solved.

You’ve contradicted yourself based on your post stream which is too long to requote.


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And Allan the promiscuous poster is back.
 
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You’ve contradicted yourself based on your post stream which is too long to requote.


Try.
 
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^^^ Don’t need to. There for everyone to see.


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Food shortages, rampant unemployment, stagnant economy and perpetual misery is not a side effect of taking reasonable precautions to not infect others when you're sick and wearing the damned mask.


Sure it is. The country is at a standstill right now, or haven't you been paying attention. Wearing a mask has done nothing to curb the Wu Flu. Don't you realize that China and most other Asian countries wear masks regularly and have since at least the early 2000's when the first SARS cases hit. If the masks stopped the spread, then how did it get here? The fear of the Wu Flu and the amount of pushback from those like yourself to not reopen the country have all but crippled us.

"Reasonable precautions"? Sounds like good ol' fashioned "common sense gun control measures" It's funny how people fall for simple words that have no meaning.


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After Treating Barely Any Patients for a Massive $7.5 Million Each, 16 Emergency COVID Hospitals Are Standing Down

At a cost of $7.5 million a patient, they were 16 very expensive field hospitals.

Yet, according to NPR, those hospitals are now “stand[ing] down.”

You probably remember them from headlines early in the pandemic: makeshift medical centers being assembled at breakneck speed by companies contracted by the Army Corps of Engineers in anticipation of dealing with a massive influx of COVID-19 patients in our nation’s emergency rooms.

At SUNY Stony Brook on New York’s Long Island, $155.5 million was spent on a temporary hospital which, according to New York Newsday, saw “five massive field hospital tents” put up. The maximum beds under contract was 1,038.

To the west on Long Island, another $118.5 million was spent putting up another field hospital at SUNY Old Westbury. Neither have yet to see a single patient. Newsday reported the decision was made not to staff or fully equip the sites in mid-April when the predicted need for hospital beds never materialized.

In Denver, a field hospital at the Colorado Convention Center was supposed to have up to 2,000 beds and open in late April. On April 20, The Denver Post reported the facility wouldn’t be ready until May 15 and would have “about 600 beds.” On Thursday, KUSA-TV reported it would open June 4 and hold 200 beds.

Cost: $34.6 million. Patients seen so far: 0.

These were just some of the quick-hospital projects that were arranged for the cost of over $660 million to taxpayers, according to NPR, which analyzed federal spending records. They looked at over 30 projects that received money; 17 of these projects were listed in their report on the program.

One of them, the facility at New York City’s Javits Center, was an outlier. Costing $11.4 million, it cumulatively treated 1,095 patients. This, by the way, was nowhere near its capacity of 1,900 beds.

The other 16 field hospitals, which cost a total of $615 million, treated just 82 patients during the time they were open — the ones that opened at all, that is.

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“We really wanted to make sure that we were maintaining some of the physical infrastructure that has been built there. So that should we need it, it doesn’t take us a long time to potentially turn that back on,” said Allison Arwady, Chicago’s public health commissioner.

Whether or not they ever need to be reopened is a totally different question. Based on what we’ve seen thus far, the answer is likely no.

Given that, this was a waste of resources,

https://www.westernjournal.com...lypm&utm_content=ttp



Walsh Construction (a VERY politically connected construction company) did the build with the Corps of Engineers at Mc Cormack Place here in Chicago.
Originally there were 3000 beds.
Then it was scaled back to 1000 a few weeks ago.

No more than a total of 20 patients.

GREAT ALLOCATION OF RESOURCES AND MONEY!!!

(I hate to stand here on a soap box and preach, but THANKFULLY there were only 20 patients, and not the thousands expected)


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A few things to ponder:

I was under the impression that most people in China wear masks due to excessive levels of pollutants and toxins in their cities - not because of fear of viral infection?

If you are sick enough to think you should put on a mask - why are you out in public in the first place?
 
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A few things to ponder:

I was under the impression that most people in China wear masks due to excessive levels of pollutants and toxins in their cities - not because of fear of viral infection?

If you are sick enough to think you should put on a mask - why are you out in public in the first place?


Which is my point about the masks. If everyone wears one but people still get sick, what's the point? According to the "mask up, save a life" crew, that shouldn't have happened.


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I was just at the grocery store. Perhaps it was a fluke, but there were fewer people wearing masks, including four of five giggling high school girls crowded together in the checkout line.
 
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And the officer with whom I agreed and spoke too much common sense was fired.


Saw that one coming. And Seattle - it was a no-brainer. I do highly admire his willingness to stand up for his convictions.




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A few things to ponder:

I was under the impression that most people in China wear masks due to excessive levels of pollutants and toxins in their cities - not because of fear of viral infection?

If you are sick enough to think you should put on a mask - why are you out in public in the first place?


Which is my point about the masks. If everyone wears one but people still get sick, what's the point? According to the "mask up, save a life" crew, that shouldn't have happened.


And then there is this, Study: Masks Fail to Filter Virus in Coughing COVID-19 Patients


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Anybody wishing to test the effectiveness of their masks needs to hop in a car with my uncle Ricky after he eats his daily 7-11 big bite hotdog with jalapenos and a few beers. I'll guarantee you'll be gagging and reaching for the window switch because it ain't doing shit to stop anything Eek


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if your sick the worst thing you can do is where a mask all those germs and sickness building up in your hello kitty cloth mask


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Just canceled my Costco membership. The girl over the phone said I wasn’t the only one.


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or maybe you don't care about anyone but yourself.

That's rich coming from someone who would refuse to wear a mask when sick, thereby risking the health of others for their own feelings.

If you wore a full burka, you wouldn't have to worry about it, because then you'd be "safe".

And so would others.

So, just be safe and put on the burka. Make your wife and family wear one too.

Just. Burka.
 
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