When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
Was in HD today. People were looking for N95 masks. They had none. They always have them.
Decided to check Amazon. Nothing. Filter for my 3M respirator are also sold out.
Don't need them myself as I have a few but people are going nuts.
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February 26, 2020, 04:34 PM
sigfreund
As I’ve opined before, a “panic buyer” is the one who bought the last of what I wanted just before I tried to buy it.
Or as a paraphrase of the old, “I am firm, you are stubborn, he is a pig-headed fool,” in these situations it’s, “I am prudent, you are fearful, he is panicking.”
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February 26, 2020, 04:40 PM
ensigmatic
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Originally posted by comet24: ... but people are going nuts.
Not near as I can tell. Not yet.
My wife and I went out to lay in extra supplies, just in case. Major groceries, etc. store. Traffic seemed pretty much normal. I eyeballed the carts of others. My wife's cart and mine were the only ones I saw that were indicative of "stocking up."
I'm not surprised by the masks thing. Consider the average home probably has (had?) none of them, of any type, in stock.
I've a mostly-full box of 3M N95 dust masks out in the garage because I use them regularly. We've an unopened pack of surgical masks down in the pantry, purchased last year when the first SARS outbreak looked like it could become an issue. I purchased a three-pack of reusable, washable cloth masks from Amazon a month ago. Hopefully that'll suffice.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
February 26, 2020, 04:40 PM
midwest guy
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Originally posted by comet24: Was in HD today. People were looking for N95 masks. They had none. They always have them.
Decided to check Amazon. Nothing. Filter for my 3M respirator are also sold out.
Don't need them myself as I have a few but people are going nuts.
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The large hospitals in my area have put N95 masks under lock and key.
Originally posted by kkina: From my cold, dead...er, face:
Got one similar to that, too. And, I think, a spare set of filters.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
February 26, 2020, 05:18 PM
chellim1
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The large hospitals in my area have put N95 masks under lock and key.
We mailed some to my son in the San Francisco area since he couldn't find them there...
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February 26, 2020, 05:36 PM
Balzé Halzé
President Trump is about to have his primetime News Conference on this virus.
Actually, here he goes.
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February 26, 2020, 05:40 PM
chellim1
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No fatalities up to age 9. Only 0.2% mortality rate up to age 39 (regular flu is around 0.1%), climbing all the way up to almost 15% if you're 80. Most of the cases are in an overwhelmed area of China, so perhaps the mortality will drop elsewhere.
Right. It will drop elsewhere... However, it's not the common flu.
It's actually ~3.4%, (based on Johns Hopkins CSSE) which is 68x the flu.
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown
"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor
February 26, 2020, 06:00 PM
RogueJSK
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Originally posted by 46and2: Yay for drive-through pharmacies, order-ahead groceries, and take-out food.
Which is fine until the employees at those establishments end up coming into contact with customers who are infected, and then end up being carriers themselves.
February 26, 2020, 06:23 PM
ensigmatic
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé: President Trump is about to have his primetime News Conference on this virus.
Actually, here he goes.
Hmmm... ABC didn't interrupt their "news" to carry it.
"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher
February 26, 2020, 06:25 PM
WaterburyBob
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Originally posted by ensigmatic:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé: President Trump is about to have his primetime News Conference on this virus.
Actually, here he goes.
Hmmm... ABC didn't interrupt their "news" to carry it.
Neither did our local CBS affiliate.
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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé: President Trump is about to have his primetime News Conference on this virus.
Actually, here he goes.
Hmmm... ABC didn't interrupt their "news" to carry it.
Neither did our local CBS affiliate.
Seriously? The President is addressing what many fear will be a life changing Pandemic, and the media ignores it?
~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country
Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
February 26, 2020, 06:36 PM
cgode
The N95 masks will filter out particles 3 microns and larger.......the estimate of the corona virus is between 1 to 2 microns .... so, there’s that
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February 26, 2020, 06:42 PM
kkina
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Originally posted by cgode: The N95 masks will filter out particles 3 microns and larger.......the estimate of the corona virus is between 1 to 2 microns .... so, there’s that
Yes, but the virus largely vectors on particulate matter much larger than 3 microns. So it will work, if you follow the entire protocol (good seal, not touching under the mask, timely replacement, etc.).
Glad to see Trump attempting to get out in front of this . Read an article today that had Harvard med epidemiologist thinking that the U.S. will see and infection rate greater than 40%.
February 26, 2020, 06:47 PM
gearhounds
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Originally posted by kkina:
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Originally posted by cgode: The N95 masks will filter out particles 3 microns and larger.......the estimate of the corona virus is between 1 to 2 microns .... so, there’s that
Yes, but the virus largely vectors on particulate matter much larger than 3 microns. So it will work, if you follow the entire protocol (good seal, not touching under the mask, timely replacement, etc.).
Yup. As of now, it requires water droplets to carry it to be transferred through the air. The eyes are another matter from what I’ve heard. The CDC says it’s not a “main@ way it can be spread but that implies it’s possible. More likely from rubbing I suspect.
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February 26, 2020, 06:50 PM
cgode
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Originally posted by kkina:
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Originally posted by cgode: The N95 masks will filter out particles 3 microns and larger.......the estimate of the corona virus is between 1 to 2 microns .... so, there’s that
Yes, but the virus largely vectors on particulate matter much larger than 3 microns. So it will work, if you follow the entire protocol (good seal, not touching under the mask, timely replacement, etc.).
Good to know....I wonder if the masses are wearing properly? My guess in no. We fit test both our SCBA and N95 masks annually by OSHA standards (law) and I know from experience, if that N95 mask isn’t fitted and worn correctly, you fail the fit test miserably.
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February 26, 2020, 06:52 PM
Balzé Halzé
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Originally posted by kkina:
quote:
Originally posted by cgode: The N95 masks will filter out particles 3 microns and larger.......the estimate of the corona virus is between 1 to 2 microns .... so, there’s that
Yes, but the virus largely vectors on particulate matter much larger than 3 microns. So it will work, if you follow the entire protocol (good seal, not touching under the mask, timely replacement, etc.).
Are you guys serious about walking around wearing a respirator?
~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country
Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan
