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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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April 21, 2020, 03:03 PM
maxdog
When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
I wonder if the the subway and bus systems have contributed to NY’s high rate of illness? Not practical for most to drive a car. Public transportation is crowded, close and jammed.

Suspect lots of disease could have been spread in the subways prior to the shutdown.

No other cities rely so much on public transportation.
April 21, 2020, 03:06 PM
stoic-one
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Couple admitted to testing positive in New York and deciding to fly to FL as they did not want to get sick in NY.
Ummm, why didn't NY enforce a quarantine on them? Inquiring minds, and junk... Roll Eyes

Yes, sarcasm.


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April 21, 2020, 03:09 PM
stoic-one
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Suspect lots of disease could have been spread in the subways prior to the shutdown.
I'm actually starting to believe this is one of the major factors, actually.

Based on our analysis Tribeca is the Manhattan neighborhood where residents are most likely to have a car. But even still, only 36% of households have cars. That pales in comparison to the US as a whole, where nearly 95% of the population have cars.

I don't believe there is a metro area in the entire country that relies more heavily on mass transit than the greater metro CT/NY/NJ/MA/MD region. Subway, buses, trains, whatever.


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April 21, 2020, 03:16 PM
benny6
So my wife said that elective surgeries at her hospital will be reopened on Thursday at 25% capacity and slowly begin opening it back up again.

Good news, for sure!

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April 21, 2020, 03:17 PM
YooperSigs
Yesterday I saw a presser from Michigan Lt. Governor Gilchrist (think mini Obama) where he claimed that 40% of MI. C-19 cases were in black communities. And went on to congratulate the administration for "tracking" this trend.
So now the virus is.... Racist!
And of course we now have a Corona Virus Task Force on Racial Disparities.


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April 21, 2020, 03:18 PM
2000Z-71
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Originally posted by Skins2881:
I don't understand how this disease attacks the body through so many avenues attacking some people here, some people there, as well as people's different reactions. Some fend it off like a cold, some are hit like a flu, and some are hospitalized. It makes no sense whatsoever.


As the article posted above by Sigfreund went into, the thinking now is the virus attacks the biology of vascular system. This is why symptoms show up in different parts of the anatomy.

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Also the other puzzling thing is what exactly is going on in NYC?


NYC kind of presented the perfect storm for the virus. Dense population with people packed on top of each other somewhat negates quarantine. The subway system also provided a means of transportation for the virus. They also went into lockdown after the virus had already started to spread. NYC had visitors from europe that brought the infection over. This is a later mutated C strain as opposed to the earlier A strain from Asia that is what most of the west coast is seeing.

I'm also skeptical of some of the data coming out of New York. I think they're playing games with the data to cover for themselves. Over the past 10 years 20 hospitals have closed in NYC due to the Affordable Health Care Act and state budget cuts. Roughly 20,000 hospital beds have been lost due to the cuts. Would the healthcare system have been overwhelmed in NYC if these hospitals were still open? Would the death toll be lower if these hospitals were still open? I don't know, but blaming everything on the new pandemic provides them cover for what they have done.




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April 21, 2020, 03:24 PM
Rightwire
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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
Got a text from a long time friend, my best man at my (2ND) wedding. He lives in SW FL> Wife is a retired NICU nurse. His daughter is a surgical nurse at a surgery center, currently not working.

Son in law is a EMS Battalion Commander. Had to send a rig out a few days ago on 911 call. Upon arrival, crew finds a couple, both admitting to Covid symptoms. This was not told to 911 call center when the couple called.

Couple admitted to testing positive in New York and deciding to fly to FL as they did not want to get sick in NY.

Disgusting!


This is the sort of blatant selfish act that gives the iron handed governor's reason to tighten their grip.

I wonder how many people these idiots infected along the way.




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April 21, 2020, 03:40 PM
stoic-one
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I wonder how many people these idiots infected along the way.
I've been told that 2 of the 3 deaths in my neighboring county were contact spreads by visitors from NYC, 4 weeks ago, after NY locked down the week prior...


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April 21, 2020, 03:47 PM
trapper189
quote:
Originally posted by YooperSigs:
Yesterday I saw a presser from Michigan Lt. Governor Gilchrist (think mini Obama) where he claimed that 40% of MI. C-19 cases were in black communities. And went on to congratulate the administration for "tracking" this trend.
So now the virus is.... Racist!
And of course we now have a Corona Virus Task Force on Racial Disparities.


Well, 76% of the people in Detroit who died from COVID-19 were black. This goes against Gilchrist's assertion since the population of Detroit 80% black.
April 21, 2020, 03:56 PM
trapper189
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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:

Couple admitted to testing positive in New York and deciding to fly to FL as they did not want to get sick in NY.

Disgusting!


Are they Florida residents? What county? All the NY cases in my county are/were Florida residents.
April 21, 2020, 04:04 PM
WaterburyBob
We had loads of New Yorkers coming up to CT to flee the city. I'm sure that's part of the reason we've got so many cases here. RI actually had their State Troopers on I95 on the CT/RI border for a while, stopping cars with NY plates.



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April 21, 2020, 04:13 PM
Skins2881
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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:

The subway system also provided a means of transportation for the virus. They also went into lockdown after the virus had already started to spread. NYC had visitors from europe that brought the infection over. This is a later mutated C strain as opposed to the earlier A strain from Asia that is what most of the west coast is seeing.


Where I live (outside DC) there are similar circumstances. While not as reliant on Metro as NYC is on the Subway, 1/2 the people or more commuting into the city come in on Metro rail or Metro bus and the system is like a wagon wheel around the city. You'd think DC and close surrounding metro area would have tons of cases, but there are only 27,000 confirmed cases in MD, VA, and DC, with only 3,000 in DC. Seems we'd be hit pretty hard too?



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April 21, 2020, 04:17 PM
RHINOWSO
Yes yes, should have been far worse... the experts are stumped by the real life occurrences...

Funny too that I'm sure lots of DC workers are 'essential', with lots of gubbiment workers on the teat... so they 'should' have more exposure, hence more cases...
April 21, 2020, 04:18 PM
parabellum
Goddamned carpetbaggers still making trouble down here, after 150 years.
April 21, 2020, 04:46 PM
gearhounds
I still see several NY and NJ tags on I-81 heading south through WV. They’re not done fleeing but they’ve been spreading it south since the beginning.




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April 21, 2020, 05:14 PM
parabellum
Tar and feathers are called for but the damn Yankees are infectious, so we don't want to manhandle 'em.

What we need is a tar hose and a feather cannon
April 21, 2020, 05:21 PM
sdy
https://www.washingtonexaminer...sses-begin-to-reopen

Colorado residents will take their first step back toward normalcy after Gov. Jared Polis said he would allow his stay-at-home order to expire next week.

The state had been sheltering at home since March 26 because of the coronavirus pandemic. While many states have extended their social distancing orders, Polis announced that he would allow the order to expire as planned on Monday.

“As it rolls off April 27, we need to figure out how to run the marathon now that we’ve run the sprint,” he said. “I hate to break it to you, but the easy part was the sprint.”

He added, “We can’t lose sight of the fact that our job isn’t finished. Your job isn’t finished. Not by a long shot."

The decision will allow "retail curbside delivery" for all stores starting on Monday, while many other retailers, such as hair salons, will be allowed to resume business on May 1 with proper social distancing policies in place. Elective surgeries will also be allowed to resume on Monday.

Large workplaces can reopen on May 4 at 50% capacity. Businesses were urged to track employees' temperatures and symptoms to ensure that workers are healthy. Bars and restaurants could open by mid-May, but Polis said he would wait and consult public health officials before taking that step.
April 21, 2020, 05:27 PM
Oat_Action_Man
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Originally posted by gearhounds:
I still see several NY and NJ tags on I-81 heading south through WV. They’re not done fleeing but they’ve been spreading it south since the beginning.


They're here, too. Way fewer NY plates around my burb outside Philly than normal, but they stand out all the more now. Literally see no NJ or DE plates like I normally do, but there are still NY plates. I think one or two have fled and taken up residence with relatives in the neighborhood I walk in.


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April 21, 2020, 05:28 PM
holdem
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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
Couple admitted to testing positive in New York and deciding to fly to FL as they did not want to get sick in NY.

Disgusting!


There was a joke a while back about North Korea's infection rate.

10:02am Coronavirus postives - 1
10:03am Coronavirus positives - 0
11:45am Coronavirus postives - 1
11:46am Coronavirus positives - 0

Etc, etc. The joke being that as soon as someone tested positive Kim Jung had them shot.

This couple should be sent to North Korea.
April 21, 2020, 05:31 PM
bubbatime
I'm in southwest Florida and every 5th plate on the road is a car from New York. GO THE FUCK HOME!!


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