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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
March 30, 2020, 12:35 PM
sdyWhen will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
predictions from
The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) is an independent global health research center at the University of Washington.
http://www.healthdata.org/For NY,
Peak resource use will be 9 Apr 2020
Peak Resources predicted to be needed:
hospital beds 71,574
ICU beds 11,070
Ventilators 8,855
These projections are lower than what Cuomo projected on 24 Mar 2020
Total deaths projected for NY : 15,546 (projected thru 4 Aug 2020)
(NY deaths right now at 1026)
Two doctors have said that for people who go on the ventilators, about half die.
March 30, 2020, 12:41 PM
smlsigMy first thought when reading the article was...”I wonder if PHPaul was involved...?”
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March 30, 2020, 12:59 PM
HRKquote:
Well the dude was from Noo Joisey, shoulda probably blocked him in long ago...

quote:
Originally posted by smlsig:
My first thought when reading the article was...”I wonder if PHPaul was involved...?”
Thought the same, but no mention of a bulldozer...
March 30, 2020, 01:09 PM
tatortoddquote:
Originally posted by sdy:
predictions from
The Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation (IHME) is an independent global health research center at the University of Washington.
http://www.healthdata.org/For NY,
Peak resource use will be 9 Apr 2020
Peak Resources predicted to be needed:
hospital beds 71,574
ICU beds 11,070
Ventilators 8,855
These projections are lower than what Cuomo projected on 24 Mar 2020
Total deaths projected for NY : 15,546 (projected thru 4 Aug 2020)
(NY deaths right now at 1026)
Two doctors have said that for people who go on the ventilators, about half die.
I looked at this for Texas and they project:
peak bed occurs May 2nd with existing restrictions
we have enough beds and ventilators
Thanks for posting.
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DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. March 30, 2020, 01:30 PM
tigereye313quote:
Originally posted by tatortodd:
I looked at this for Texas and they project:
peak bed occurs May 2nd with existing restrictions
we have enough beds and ventilators
Thanks for posting.
Good info.
March 30, 2020, 01:31 PM
DzozerSeattle, Wash. sees slowdown in COVID-19 cases
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UPDATED 6:42 AM PT — Monday, March 30, 2020
According to a new report, the number of coronavirus cases in Seattle, Washington has decelerated as a result of the state’s containment efforts.
An article published in The New York Times Sunday claimed the Seattle-area, which was the location of the first known COVID-19 case in the U.S., has shown a significant slowdown in the spread of the virus. That’s according to data from the Institute for Disease Modeling, which is a private research group that has been monitoring the outbreak as it progresses.
Its data showed that in early March each infected person in the state was spreading the virus to an average of 2.7 other people. Following recently enacted guidelines and the statewide stay-at-home order, however, that number has dropped to less than 1.4 people.
During a recent press conference, Gov. Jay Inslee also touched on how strict containment strategies enacted during the early days of the outbreak are now beginning to pay off.
“We know that this is still a dire challenge, we know this is a fateful disease, we know that we have not turned the corner and we are not even close to the end of this battle, but we do think there is some evidence that our community mitigation strategies — the things we’ve done already to close schools, close restaurants and theaters, to prohibit gatherings — we think these things have been able to slow the rate of increase,” Gov. Inslee stated.
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While officials said overall progress against the virus is still being analyzed, they also added that expansive social distancing policies will remain a key part of daily life for residents in Seattle for weeks to come.
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'veritas non verba magistri' March 30, 2020, 01:39 PM
Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by Dzozer:
“...but we do think there is some evidence that our community mitigation strategies — the things we’ve done already to close schools, close restaurants and theaters, to prohibit gatherings — we think these things have been able to slow the rate of increase,” Gov. Inslee stated.
You think, eh?
Simpleton.
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March 30, 2020, 01:48 PM
Boss1quote:
State rep quoted from the article:
"Except for in the most extreme circumstances, we do not have the authority to control the movement of US citizens within our borders, and frankly, I'm concerned about the number of people who are eager to hand their rights over to the government."
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March 30, 2020, 01:58 PM
chellim1quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by Dzozer:
“...but we do think there is some evidence that our community mitigation strategies — the things we’ve done already to close schools, close restaurants and theaters, to prohibit gatherings — we think these things have been able to slow the rate of increase,” Gov. Inslee stated.
You think, eh?
Simpleton.
So, Balzé, what do you think slows the rate of increase? If not keeping people apart or 'social distancing'?
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ensigmaticquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by Dzozer:
“...but we do think there is some evidence that our community mitigation strategies — the things we’ve done already to close schools, close restaurants and theaters, to prohibit gatherings — we think these things have been able to slow the rate of increase,” Gov. Inslee stated.
You think, eh?
Simpleton.
Ambiguous response. Do you not agree that social distancing measures slows the rapid rise in infection rates or do you believe it stupidly obvious they do?
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konata88Two things that are pissing me off - I know we have the data but it's not being shared:
1) County specific data. In a large state, it's not good enough to say there are 1000 cases. I want to know prevalence by county - # of cases in each county.
2) Severity -- I ready an article where they found a handful of new cases. But they said that the symptoms were mild and each person fully recovered. So, out of 1000 cases, how many are severe vs moderate vs mild?
IOW, how likely is it that I'm going to get it based on where I am. And if I get it, how likely is it that it will be mild/moderate (basically just like catching they typical cold/flu annually) vs something severe?
The data seems like it would be available. Just not being released to stir the panic?
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Balzé Halzéquote:
Originally posted by chellim1:
quote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
quote:
Originally posted by Dzozer:
“...but we do think there is some evidence that our community mitigation strategies — the things we’ve done already to close schools, close restaurants and theaters, to prohibit gatherings — we think these things have been able to slow the rate of increase,” Gov. Inslee stated.
You think, eh?
Simpleton.
So, Balzé, what do you think slows the rate of increase? If not keeping people apart or 'social distancing'?
I was simply saying that he's stating the blatantly obvious.
Of course closing schools, closing restaurants, shutting down the entire economy would slow the spread of the Wuhan. The spread of every single disease on the entire planet has been slowed down in the past three weeks. Who the hell would think otherwise?
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March 30, 2020, 02:06 PM
Georgeairquote:
1) County specific data. In a large state, it's not good enough to say there are 1000 cases. I want to know prevalence by county - # of cases in each county.
Check your state Dept. of Health site. We do have that piece at least in MS.
Link to MSDH
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March 30, 2020, 02:07 PM
konata88quote:
Originally posted by Georgeair:
quote:
1) County specific data. In a large state, it's not good enough to say there are 1000 cases. I want to know prevalence by county - # of cases in each county.
Check your state Dept. of Health site. We do have that piece at least in MS.
Link to MSDH
Thanks. Yes checked. They have county presence but no additional granularity. Presence could be 1 case or 1000 cases. MS seems smarter. And that data seems to show gradients expanding from dense metro centers as one might expect.
Just curious - why is gender being tracked? Is that typical? Do we expect some sort of gender based bias?
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Georgeairquote:
MS seems smarter.
Said nobody ever.
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March 30, 2020, 02:12 PM
sdy https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/enprovides county data
when it first comes up, there is a map of the U.S.
click on your state
then scroll over the counties
it displays confirmed and deaths
March 30, 2020, 02:13 PM
Keystonerquote:
Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The spread of every single disease on the entire planet has been slowed down in the past three weeks.
The clap?
Year V March 30, 2020, 02:14 PM
sigfreundquote:
Originally posted by konata88:
1) County specific data. In a large state, it's not good enough to say there are 1000 cases. I want to know prevalence by county - # of cases in each county.
This is a useful site although its data, not surprisingly, lags other sources a bit. Click on your state to see the breakout by county.
https://coronavirus.1point3acres.com/#mapAdded:
sdy beat me to it.
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I can tell at sight a Chassepot rifle from a javelin. March 30, 2020, 02:22 PM
Jimineerquote:
Originally posted by konata88:
IOW, how likely is it that I'm going to get it based on where I am. And if I get it, how likely is it that it will be mild/moderate (basically just like catching they typical cold/flu annually) vs something severe?
The data seems like it would be available. Just not being released to stir the panic?
I think you might be trying to oversimplify things.
How accurately can they predict when it’s going to rain 12 mm/hr where you are in 3 weeks? 2 weeks? Probably not very accurately. And, what would you do different if they told you you had a 50% chance of getting Covid with whatever margin of error?
Nobody knows.
Is the media hyping things up? That I think we can predict with certainty.

it’s how they make money.
We are all more likely to die of something other than Covid.
March 30, 2020, 02:24 PM
konata88Thanks SDY, SF. Interesting data. Chinese site? Still, interesting data. Seems consistent w/ high level state data.
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"A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book