When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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March 26, 2020, 04:42 PM

RHINOWSO

When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
What is going on with all these claims of overrun hospitals that just don't seem to jive with reality?

Dude, you need to get onboard with reality. I know everyone and their mother has a phone & camera these days, but there are reasons that there have been no photos / videos of these 'over-run' hospitals, because, you know.... JUST BECAUSE!!>!>!>!

<thick sarcasm>

Someone make sure I know when the pandemic is coming, I don't want to miss it.

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Originally posted by Keystoner:
quote:
Originally posted by Stlhead:
Why are we arguing about the Wuhan?

It's new.

And it's politically convenient as a way to trash the economy.

March 26, 2020, 04:42 PM

Shifferbrains

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:
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Originally posted by OKCGene:...

To quote Winston Churchill, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"....

In response to the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor?

For the day that will live in infirmary.

March 26, 2020, 04:43 PM

sigmonkey

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Originally posted by Keystoner:...

It's new.

Everybody loves a good novel...

March 26, 2020, 04:46 PM

6guns

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Originally posted by sdy:
6guns - DailyWire doesn't open in IE

works ok in Google

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"We're just going to have to wait to see how this plays out"

yes. We have the NY forecast and a time schedule. NY predicts their peak in 2 to 3 weeks, but if the bad scenario is true, we will see rapidly increasing NY numbers (and hospitalizations) at a rate of 2x every 3 days.

BTW, the UK also predicts they will hit peak in 2 to 3 weeks.

Thanks, sdy. I'm having the issue with Safari. Maybe a reboot would help...haven't tried that.

March 26, 2020, 04:46 PM

RHINOWSO

quote:
Originally posted by bubbatime:
Now, this is ONE hospital in America, in Florida

Which hospital in Florida?

March 26, 2020, 04:47 PM

WaterburyBob

quote:
Originally posted by Stlhead:
33,000 + men will die from prostate cancer this year.

840,000 + people will die from heart disease this year.

800,000 + abortions.

Why are we arguing about the Wuhan?

Well, none of those are contagious, so that's not really a good analogy.

March 26, 2020, 04:47 PM

XinTX

quote:
Originally posted by sigmonkey:
quote:
Originally posted by OKCGene:...

To quote Winston Churchill, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"....

In response to the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor?

Obviously quoted from "History of the States of United" by Joe Biden.

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March 26, 2020, 04:51 PM

46and2

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Originally posted by jljones:
I think many here run a greater risk of having a massive heart attack from being completely panicked over the ‘rona than they do of actually dying from the ‘rona.

If you have to constantly insist that you aren’t panicking, you probably are based upon some of the stuff being posted.

da 'rona.

like da bears and da "bola.

March 26, 2020, 04:51 PM

ChicagoSigMan

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Originally posted by maladat:.

I can't speak to Atlanta specifically, but in general, you can't assume that because a hospital has X ICU beds, it has X available ICU beds. On average in the US (I don't mean now, I mean in general, over the last few years), about 70% of ICU beds are in use.

That's why there has been so much talk about canceling elective procedures. It's an attempt to reduce the number of ICU beds in use for non-coronavirus patients. It doesn't make more ICU beds, but it makes more ICU beds available.

That's actually a good point. We aren't starting from empty ICUs. Maybe that's the answer. Still, if an extra 112 cases citywide overwhelms the system, then we are woefully underprepared for pandemics. They have happened before and they will continue to happen. Perhaps we need to finally allocate resources to preparing for them.

March 26, 2020, 04:54 PM

rusbro

quote:
Originally posted by sdy:
We have the NY forecast and a time schedule. NY predicts their peak in 2 to 3 weeks, but if the bad scenario is true, we will see rapidly increasing NY numbers (and hospitalizations) at a rate of 2x every 3 days.

Gov. Cuomo himself reported yesterday that the rate of hospitalization in NY had decreased greatly since Sunday, citing distancing and lockdown as the reasons. It's still increasing, but not as quickly as before.

https://thehill.com/policy/hea...good-sign-and-headed

March 26, 2020, 04:56 PM

Icabod

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I'm not a Dr, nor do I pretend to be, but I do know a little about human nature.

How many of those people "need" to be in those beds?
Is is someone on deaths doorstep? Or someone who could recover from their own bed?

I'm not meaning this to be factious or derogatory, just an actual honest question.

Having worked on ICU and critical wards I’ve some insight. It takes a doctor to assign an ICU bed. I was called to a CCU as a patient needed a bed but, had to wait until one open up. I was handholding him and his family. Several hours later, he kneeled over. The they moved the “best” patient to the step down and him to the bed. He survived and I got a reality check of what the medical staff goes through.

March 26, 2020, 04:56 PM

bubbatime

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Originally posted by bubbatime:
Right now, right this second, the USA is 3rd in the world in cases. Less than 24 hours from now, on Friday, the USA passes both Italy and China numbers and will be in first place.

What this means? China's numbers are as fake as a strippers tits. Yeah the world totally believes those numbers. Not. And point 2, we are entering a point of rapid exponential growth and the next few weeks will be interesting.

As of 330 PM eastern

China 81,285 cases
Italy 80,589 cases
USA 79,082 cases

Didnt even take a day. Didnt even take two hours. USA now passes China and Italy for first place.

550 PM eastern update

USA 82,179 cases
China 81,285 cases
Italy 80,589 cases

March 26, 2020, 05:02 PM

Keystoner

Trump to reporter: Who are you with?

Reporter: Bloomberg

Trump: How's Mike doing?

March 26, 2020, 05:03 PM

XinTX

Now that we're doing a lot more tests, we're getting a lot more positives. I think in Texas we're running about a 7% positive rate. The more people you test, the more positives you'll get.

And despite them having less cases, Italy has over 7 times the number of fatalities.

March 26, 2020, 05:04 PM

SigSentry

yeah, they are projecting around 214 million "cases". I will be looking at the recovered cases and we certainly are not first in deaths.

March 26, 2020, 05:04 PM

LBAR15

In NJ, we had 2,492 new cases added just today alone.

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March 26, 2020, 05:08 PM

Prefontaine

Dallas County has deemed that gun stores are essential business and will remain open. Gun sales up 500%. Gun stores in N. TX remain open.
Wish the damn ranges were open.

March 26, 2020, 05:09 PM

smithnsig

I think we will see a more regionalized type of response in the coming days/weeks. A triage with factors such as population density, infection rate, icu availability.

NY/NJ is going to be bad. Other areas not so much.

Quilette

March 26, 2020, 05:11 PM

rusbro

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Originally posted by Prefontaine:
Dallas County has deemed that gun stores are essential business and will remain open. Gun sales up 500%. Gun stores in N. TX remain open.
Wish the damn ranges were open.

Gun stores and liquor stores still open. We good.

March 26, 2020, 05:17 PM

ensigmatic

Don't know the details because I only saw a snippet on the local "news," but one of the hospitals in the Metro-Detroit area has closed its emergency room ~~because it's out of capacity~~ to prepare for the expected Covid-19 case influx.

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