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When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)

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March 26, 2020, 04:02 PM
parabellum
When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
This is silly. We're just going to have to wait to see how this plays out.
March 26, 2020, 04:03 PM
PowerSurge
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Originally posted by Patriot:
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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by Patriot:
All of Atlanta's four major hospital ICU's are at capacity...all ICU beds taken. Grady hospital has 100 ICU beds alone....ALL FULL.

Does anyone remember that with the flu? I sure don't...

Article here<<<<

Grady and other hospitals in downtown Atlanta have not had enough beds for years. This is not news.



You missed the point...

Negative. Only people panicking like you are missing the point.


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March 26, 2020, 04:05 PM
Patriot
quote:
Originally posted by parabellum:
This is silly. We're just going to have to wait to see how this plays out.


I agree...

For now, somewhere in the middle makes sense to me. Targeted areas where there are hot spots.

My company, for example, split our shifts to minimize exposure...but kept working.

Same for office folk.

My wife got laid off...both her and her 30 person team. 3 months it looks like.


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March 26, 2020, 04:06 PM
Patriot
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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by Patriot:
quote:
Originally posted by PowerSurge:
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Originally posted by Patriot:
All of Atlanta's four major hospital ICU's are at capacity...all ICU beds taken. Grady hospital has 100 ICU beds alone....ALL FULL.

Does anyone remember that with the flu? I sure don't...

Article here<<<<

Grady and other hospitals in downtown Atlanta have not had enough beds for years. This is not news.



You missed the point...

Negative. Only people panicking like you are missing the point.


Who said I'm panicking? Can you point that out to me?

Don't take this personal man...its been going so good...


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March 26, 2020, 04:07 PM
sdy
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"We're just going to have to wait to see how this plays out"

yes. We have the NY forecast and a time schedule. NY predicts their peak in 2 to 3 weeks, but if the bad scenario is true, we will see rapidly increasing NY numbers (and hospitalizations) at a rate of 2x every 3 days.


BTW, the UK also predicts they will hit peak in 2 to 3 weeks.
March 26, 2020, 04:07 PM
mojojojo
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
quote:
Originally posted by PowerSurge:
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
All of Atlanta's four major hospital ICU's are at capacity...all ICU beds taken. Grady hospital has 100 ICU beds alone....ALL FULL.

Does anyone remember that with the flu? I sure don't...

Article here<<<<

Grady and other hospitals in downtown Atlanta have not had enough beds for years. This is not news.



You missed the point...



From the article: At Atlanta's Grady Hospital, all 100 beds in the intensive care unit were full. Then COVID-19 hit. Viral patients are now quarantined wherever the hospital finds space.

So the point is...what? The hospital was already full before COVID19. Before. Sounds like the ICU beds being full has nothing to do with the virus as PowerSurge said. Or am I missing the point?



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March 26, 2020, 04:07 PM
sigmonkey
Common sense tells one that the reason someone's sister in law who is an RN cannot find any personal protective gear is that someone's sister in law who is an RN, has had to "gear up" continually and has been consuming at an exaggerated rate for weeks, all manner of equipment.

It, like most of the damage done from this " crisis", is created from the actions of minds infected with the pandemic of hysteria.

People in Panic are a greater risk to all the people of the world than those who will die directly from the cause of this virus.






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March 26, 2020, 04:13 PM
maladat
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Originally posted by mutedblade:
For those that believe the "social distancing" stuff is what is cutting down on the rate of transmission: get a clue. The people that are infected are not in a true quarantine and never will be. They will still interact with others and those others will interact with you.


No matter what you think about the coronavirus or how this whole situation is being handled, do you actually believe that drastically reducing the frequency and duration of contact between people does nothing to reduce how quickly a virus (which spreads by contact between people) spreads?

I'm not asking whether you think we SHOULD be doing social distancing or staying home or not.

Obviously it won't totally eliminate ALL spread, but do you honestly think there is absolutely no middle ground? Unless you completely eliminate all contact between people, a virus will spread at exactly the same rate?
March 26, 2020, 04:16 PM
jljones
I think many here run a greater risk of having a massive heart attack from being completely panicked over the ‘rona than they do of actually dying from the ‘rona.

If you have to constantly insist that you aren’t panicking, you probably are based upon some of the stuff being posted.




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March 26, 2020, 04:18 PM
ChicagoSigMan
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
All of Atlanta's four major hospital ICU's are at capacity...all ICU beds taken. Grady hospital has 100 ICU beds alone....ALL FULL.

Does anyone remember that with the flu? I sure don't...

Article here<<<<


I'm not there and maybe this is true and not fearmongering, but it doesn't add up.

In NY, 16% of cases are requiring hospitalization and 23% of those cases require ICU care. So 3.68% of all cases require ICU care.

All of Georgia has 1525 confirmed cases. All of Georgia. Certainly there are more cases than just confirmed cases, but even if we say Atlanta by itself has twice that number, that's only 112 ICU beds needed in the whole city.

What is going on with all these claims of overrun hospitals that just don't seem to jive with reality?
March 26, 2020, 04:19 PM
parabellum
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Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
What is going on with all these claims of overrun hospitals that just don't seem to jive with reality?
It's a puzzler
March 26, 2020, 04:25 PM
maladat
quote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
I'm not there and maybe this is true and not fearmongering, but it doesn't add up.

In NY, 16% of cases are requiring hospitalization and 23% of those cases require ICU care. So 3.68% of all cases require ICU care.

All of Georgia has 1525 confirmed cases. All of Georgia. Certainly there are more cases than just confirmed cases, but even if we say Atlanta by itself has twice that number, that's only 112 ICU beds needed in the whole city.

What is going on with all these claims of overrun hospitals that just don't seem to jive with reality?


I can't speak to Atlanta specifically, but in general, you can't assume that because a hospital has X ICU beds, it has X available ICU beds. On average in the US (I don't mean now, I mean in general, over the last few years), about 70% of ICU beds are in use.

That's why there has been so much talk about canceling elective procedures. It's an attempt to reduce the number of ICU beds in use for non-coronavirus patients. It doesn't make more ICU beds, but it makes more ICU beds available.
March 26, 2020, 04:26 PM
OKCGene
I've not read through each and every thread, so pardon me if this has already been posted.

To quote Winston Churchill, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself".

We need to get a grip, suck it up, get a firm grasp on reality and soldier on.
March 26, 2020, 04:28 PM
SigSentry
Tranquilo Cool

I won't vouch for the source but I am looking at Latin America to see how it creaps up the board. I've read that countries/regions currently still combating malaria may have some herd immunity due to the use of cloroquine. That would be a good thing.



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March 26, 2020, 04:28 PM
chellim1
quote:
To quote Winston Churchill, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself".

... or Franklin D. Roosevelt Razz
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/...RFirstInaug_MSTR.mp3



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March 26, 2020, 04:35 PM
XinTX



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March 26, 2020, 04:38 PM
sigmonkey
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Originally posted by OKCGene:...

To quote Winston Churchill, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself"....


In response to the Germans bombing Pearl Harbor? Big Grin




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March 26, 2020, 04:39 PM
Stlhead
33,000 + men will die from prostate cancer this year.

840,000 + people will die from heart disease this year.

800,000 + abortions.

Why are we arguing about the Wuhan?
March 26, 2020, 04:41 PM
Keystoner
quote:
Originally posted by Stlhead:
33,000 + men will die from prostate cancer this year.

840,000 + people will die from heart disease this year.

800,000 + abortions.

Why are we arguing about the Wuhan?

It's new.



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March 26, 2020, 04:41 PM
XinTX
Well if all this got started by someone eating bats, I bet Ozzy is shitting himself right about now.


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