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De Blasio said, “The truth is, and New Yorkers and all Americans deserve the truth, it’s only getting worse. April and May are going to be a lot worse. Right now, we are a third of the cases in the country. That’s going to get worse. We’re about two thirds or more of the cases in New York State. That’s going to get worse. But the president of the United States is from New York City, and he will not lift a finger to help his hometown"

So, DeBlasshole, you think the president should show your leftist paradise some kind of...favoritism? And by not doing so, he's a bad orange man, right? I seem to recall NYC is a sanctuary city; drop that shit, and let ICE do their jobs and maybe, MAYBE then we'll talk. AND the American people will need to see an accurate accounting of every single cent to make sure it's not being misused.


De Blasio, the guy that finally agreed to close the schools seven days ago.


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New York City, the five burgs who've had a sense of entitlement since the Feds were dumb enough to bail it out AND let it hog up something substantially more than the lion's share of antiterrorism funding. Hey, Bill! Where in New York City is that little neighborhood known as Mar A Lago?
 
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It's comical, no really it's not. When it comes to investing, what have the experts been preaching? Diversification, diversification, and diversification.

Yet these Harvard and UPenn MBA's who run corporate America did what? Yup, they put all their eggs in the China bucket!

Pitiful really.


The blame can't be put entirely on the suits.

So many consumers in the US only care about the stuff they buy being as cheap as possible that companies with much more expensive American-made products have a hard time competing.

China isn't the only one that offers cheap labor. Samsung for example, has been successfully manufacturing most of their phones and other electronics outside of China. Vietnam and other Asian countries are capable of picking up the slack while nowhere close to China when it comes to hostility and theft towards the West.
 
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Good news on chloroquine is that trials seem to have gone well, and continental sub-Saharan Africa (and other countries) where malaria prophylaxis is widespread, SARS-CoV-2 seems not to be thriving (can also be tropical/Arctic climate - if you look at the JH map, the band of highest exposure seems to be between the equatorial tropics and somewhat south of the Arctic). We shall see....



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Ohio Governor DeWine issuing stay at home order effective tomorrow night 11:59P. Essential travel like getting groceries, welfare check on friend or relative etc. still permitted. I hope my business is still essential.


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It's comical, no really it's not. When it comes to investing, what have the experts been preaching? Diversification, diversification, and diversification.

Yet these Harvard and UPenn MBA's who run corporate America did what? Yup, they put all their eggs in the China bucket!

Pitiful really.


The blame can't be put entirely on the suits.

So many consumers in the US only care about the stuff they buy being as cheap as possible that companies with much more expensive American-made products have a hard time competing.

China isn't the only one that offers cheap labor. Samsung for example, has been successfully manufacturing most of their phones and other electronics outside of China. Vietnam and other Asian countries are capable of picking up the slack while nowhere close to China when it comes to hostility and theft towards the West.

The difference is, who owns those factories? who's providing the financing? China. Japan, S.Korea, Singapore and Taiwan has done a lot, identifying the theft that the CCP has done but, the vast majority of the underwriting, and middle-management know-how in Vietnam, Philippines, Indonesia, Malaysia and Thailand, is China.
 
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De Blasio is a douche for sure. Potus has been working with the governors of each state. Mayors need to talk to their Governors you sanctimonious little shit.


De Blasio really seems to buy in to the common NYC attitude that NYC is the center of the world and simply more important than anywhere else (to the extent that "anywhere else" is acknowledged to exist at all).
 
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New York City, the five burgs who've had a sense of entitlement since the Feds were dumb enough to bail it out AND let it hog up something substantially more than the lion's share of antiterrorism funding. Hey, Bill! Where in New York City is that little neighborhood known as Mar A Lago?


You might want to reel it in a bit. Texas leads the nation in Federally declared disasters,352 since 1953 per FEMA. Remember folks that live in glass houses thing
 
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Useful op-ed, surprisingly in NYT:

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I am deeply concerned that the social, economic and public health consequences of this near total meltdown of normal life — schools and businesses closed, gatherings banned — will be long lasting and calamitous, possibly graver than the direct toll of the virus itself. The stock market will bounce back in time, but many businesses never will. The unemployment, impoverishment and despair likely to result will be public health scourges of the first order.

Worse, I fear our efforts will do little to contain the virus, because we have a resource-constrained, fragmented, perennially underfunded public health system. Distributing such limited resources so widely, so shallowly and so haphazardly is a formula for failure. How certain are you of the best ways to protect your most vulnerable loved ones? How readily can you get tested?

We have already failed to respond as decisively as China or South Korea, and lack the means to respond like Singapore. We are following in Italy’s wake, at risk of seeing our medical system overwhelmed twice: First when people rush to get tested for the coronavirus, and again when the especially vulnerable succumb to severe infection and require hospital beds.

Yes, in more and more places we are limiting gatherings uniformly, a tactic I call “horizontal interdiction” — when containment policies are applied to the entire population without consideration of their risk for severe infection.

But as the work force is laid off en masse (our family has one adult child home for that reason already), and colleges close (we have another two young adults back home for this reason), young people of indeterminate infectious status are being sent home to huddle with their families nationwide. And because we lack widespread testing, they may be carrying the virus and transmitting it to their 50-something parents, and 70- or 80-something grandparents. If there are any clear guidelines for behavior within families — what I call “vertical interdiction” — I have not seen them.

Such is the collateral damage of this diffuse form of warfare, aimed at “flattening” the epidemic curve generally rather than preferentially protecting the especially vulnerable. I believe we may be ineffectively fighting the contagion even as we are causing economic collapse.

There is another and much overlooked liability in this approach. If we succeed in slowing the spread of coronavirus from torrent to trickle, then when does the society-wide disruption end? When will it be safe for healthy children and younger teachers to return to school, much less older teachers and teachers with chronic illnesses? When will it be safe for the work force to repopulate the workplace, given that some are in the at-risk group for severe infection?


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https://jewishjournal.com/news...L_Ng25Gpv1nVj9KdOXhg


Israeli Company to Donate 6 Million Tablets of Drug to U.S. That Could Help Against Coronavirus


The Israeli pharmaceutical company Teva announced in a March 20 press release that it is donating more than 6 million tablets of a drug that could potentially treat coronavirus to the United States.
The 6 million tablets of hydroxychloroquine will be sent to the U.S. by March 31 and at least an additional 4 million tablets during April.

Teva North American Commercial Executive Vice President Brendan O’Grady said in a statement, “We are committed to helping to supply as many tablets as possible as demand for this treatment accelerates at no cost. Immediately upon learning of the potential benefit of hydroxychloroquine, Teva began to assess supply and to urgently acquire additional ingredients to make more product while arranging for all of what we had to be distributed immediately.”

The American Jewish Committee tweeted, “Thank you, Israeli pharmaceutical company Teva, for prioritizing human lives during this pandemic! #BeAMensch”

Hydroxychloroquine, also known as plaquenil, typically has been used to treat malaria and autoimmune diseases like arthritis and lupus. Its possible side effects include upset stomach and possible damage to vision down the road.

The China Academy of Sciences in Wuhan wrote in a March 18 report that its experiments with the drug show that “it has good potential to combat the disease.” Twenty coronavirus patients in France were treated with the drug and 70% tested negative for the virus in six days. Six of those patients took hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin — an antibiotic — and all six tested negative at the end of six days, according to the New York Post.

President Donald Trump said on March 19 that the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) will be fast-tracking hydroxychloroquine for approval to patients in need of treatment. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Dr. Anthony Fauci cautioned on March 20 that the research on hydroxychloroquine and coronavirus so far has been anecdotal and the drug therapy needs to be tested on a larger scale through clinical trials.



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You might want to reel it in a bit. Texas leads the nation in Federally declared disasters,352 since 1953 per FEMA. Remember folks that live in glass houses thing

There's nothing to reel in and no glass houses here. NYC has been making a pig of itself on federal resources regardless of need or who else gets screwed for as long as it's been able to, and neither Texas nor anywhere else comes close.
 
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Ancient Chinese curse:
“May you live in interesting times.”

And we are living in an interesting time as a result of this recent Chinese curse.



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1,000 piece puzzles - try to order one now.

What used to to a couple days through Amazon is one to six weeks for the challenging ones.






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Useful op-ed, surprisingly in NYT:

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I am deeply concerned that the social, economic and public health consequences of this near total meltdown of normal life — schools and businesses closed, gatherings banned — will be long lasting and calamitous, possibly graver than the direct toll of the virus itself. The stock market will bounce back in time, but many businesses never will. The unemployment, impoverishment and despair likely to result will be public health scourges of the first order.



But as the work force is laid off en masse (our family has one adult child home for that reason already), and colleges close (we have another two young adults back home for this reason), young people of indeterminate infectious status are being sent home to huddle with their families nationwide. And because we lack widespread testing, they may be carrying the virus and transmitting it to their 50-something parents, and 70- or 80-something grandparents. If there are any clear guidelines for behavior within families — what I call “vertical interdiction” — I have not seen them.

Such is the collateral damage of this diffuse form of warfare, aimed at “flattening” the epidemic curve generally rather than preferentially protecting the especially vulnerable. I believe we may be ineffectively fighting the contagion even as we are causing economic collapse.

There is another and much overlooked liability in this approach. If we succeed in slowing the spread of coronavirus from torrent to trickle, then when does the society-wide disruption end? When will it be safe for healthy children and younger teachers to return to school, much less older teachers and teachers with chronic illnesses? When will it be safe for the work force to repopulate the workplace, given that some are in the at-risk group for severe infection?


Essentially our political immune response to a virus will kill the patient (the economy).
 
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Fascinating how some middle aged people are asymptomatic. I’m very interested to see the role blood type plays in this.





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Originally posted by maladat:The blame can't be put entirely on the suits.

So many consumers in the US only care about the stuff they buy being as cheap as possible that companies with much more expensive American-made products have a hard time competing.


Who pays the lobbyists in DC? It’s not the average American.


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You might want to reel it in a bit. Texas leads the nation in Federally declared disasters,352 since 1953 per FEMA. Remember folks that live in glass houses thing

There's nothing to reel in and no glass houses here. NYC has been making a pig of itself on federal resources regardless of need or who else gets screwed for as long as it's been able to, and neither Texas nor anywhere else comes close.


The facts don’t support that opinion, but you are certainly entitled to your opinion. With that I will cease commenting on that. Bless you.
 
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Rand Paul Tests Positive For COVID-19:
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Senator Rand Paul has tested positive for COVID-19. He is feeling fine and is in quarantine. He is asymptomatic and was tested out of an abundance of caution due to his extensive travel and events. He was not aware of any direct contact with any infected person.

No one left to oppose the Coronavirus Corporate Coup?


It's being reported that the Congressional gyms remain open which Paul continued to workout. Senators are lunching and meeting in groups over 10. Classic do as I say and not as I do.


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The lockdown affecting large segments of the American public to try to curb the spread of the coronavirus is likely to last 10 to 12 weeks, or until early June , U.S. Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said on Sunday.


There is no way that people in this country will tolerate a lockdown for this amount of time.


Nope. You'll be lucky to make it a couple of weeks before it starts getting ugly.

A lot of people are putting up with being lectured right now. It won't last.


We are already there here. Yesterday I went to a convenience store to pick up a few items. A guy in a flatbed rig must have been dicking with his phone but he was blocking the entrance and wasn’t paying attention. Half a minute later he realizes his bs and starts moving, proceeds to use the same ingress/egress where I’m stuck waiting for him. I see 6 inches of room from that flatbed to my truck. It closes to 5, 4, 3, 2, and at 1 I’m on the horn. I rolled down the window and said please don’t hit my vehicle. Guy is screaming at me and says “Fuck You, redneck mother fucker”. There was a wreck at the corner so I think he got beat by another tow vehicle to the site. I kept my cool, almost got my bumper and front left quarter panel damaged extensively, got screamed at, and I wasn’t even trying to purchase TP. I think it’s already time for a rifle and go bag in the vehicle.



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I’m very interested to see the role blood type plays in this.

Do you mean why people with blood type A are apparently more susceptible to the disease and they they are more likely to succumb to it?

In other "news": Michigan's rate of cumulative cases and deaths continue to double about every two days (CFR 0.8%). A local "news" show reported better than half the new cases were people under fifty years old. So far there's still no sign from our state capital they plan to issue a "shelter in place" edict, but they did yesterday order hair, tanning, and nail salons, and "other non-essential personal care services" to close their doors.

The national trends in both new infections and deaths, which yesterday appeared to maybe be flattening out a bit, appear to have resumed their exponential climb, if 1point3acres' numbers are to be believed.

One of my LGS' earlier today sent out an email saying they're closing the store until the 30th. Probably burned-out and need a rest.



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