When will the coronavirus arrive in the US? (Disease: COVID-19; Virus: SARS-CoV-2)
I'm not backing down but I am shutting up.
Time is the only thing that will tell if crippling our economy was worth it and it won't be long.
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March 21, 2020, 10:51 PM
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Originally posted by liner: Another Powerline blog worth the time to read. The World Health Organization (“WHO”) released a study on how China responded to COVID-19. Currently, this study is one of the most exhaustive pieces published on how the virus spreads.
the people who told the world eating meat gives you cancer. i tend to immediately take the other side of their position.
March 21, 2020, 11:01 PM
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SOME GOOD NEWS
GM is partnering with Ventec Life Systems to help increase production of ventilators
The machines are vital for patients with severe cases of COVID-19 infection. By Kim Lyons Mar 21, 2020, 9:37am EDT
General Motors is partnering with Ventec Life Systems to help increase production of ventilators that are needed in hospitals dealing with patients who have the novel coronavirus, the companies announced Friday. In the most severe cases of COVID-19 infection, patients need the assistance of ventilators to breathe, and there are widespread concerns that the US does not have enough ventilators to meet the coming demand.
Seattle-based Ventec is one of a handful of ventilator manufacturers in the US, according to NBC News, and already has ramped up its production. Ventec CEO Chris Kiple says the company is aiming to produce 1,000 machines per month (up from its usual 150 per month), in the next 90 days, and eventually, to produce 2,000 ventilators per month.
Ventec will rely on GM’s manufacturing, logistics, and purchasing to help build more ventilators more quickly. GM Chairman and CEO Mary Barra said in a statement that GM would “continue to explore ways to help in this time of crisis.”
Other automakers including Ford and Volkswagen also reportedly have contacted the White House to see how they could help with ventilator production. Tesla CEO Elon Musk tweeted that Tesla and SpaceX employees were “working on ventilators” and despite a tweet from New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio that the machines were definitely needed, Musk didn’t provide further details about when or where his companies would produce the machines.
Dallas County Judge Clay Jenkins had a press conference today. He covered a lot of things, suspending any sports, closing the nail and hair salons, dentist offices, basically shutting the final businesses down. More business mandatory closures.
Then he switched subjects and talked at length about TP. He said it was the the strangest subject he’s ever had to discuss in a press conference. It’s an order to limit the purchase of TP, done in tandem with the retailer association. Dallas County now has a 12 roll limit. He went on that any one person can only buy 2 six packs, 3 four packs, etc. But if one person comes across an 18 or 24 pack, they could buy it but because it has 12 rolls or more that’s the only TP purchase they could make. He also said the TP mfr’s have plenty of TP, and they don’t have a supply problem and they showed him pictures of warehouses full of TP, but it was all 6 roll packages, six packs because that’s the “fastest” thing they can produce. Clay went on that people are reselling the TP and they don’t want that.
Clay also said don’t be flushing tissue or Kleenex down the shitter. It expands and doesn’t biodegrade like TP does. He said plumbers are “busier than ever” because people are flushing paper products down the shitter that you aren’t supposed to.
Got damn. Dallas County Judge spending a major portion of a press conference, in a pandemic, about TP, and flushing behavior. He’s on the TV talking TP and I almost feel like it’s a George Carlin bit.
After the press conference the local news anchor repeats the business closures then he discusses the limit on TP. And how we have plenty of TP available it’s just people hoarding it. I think I will end up saving this 1 hour news reel forever.
You can watch it on You Tube if you need some comedy. Fast Forward to 1:35 and enjoy the TP law. It’s quite entertaining. I heard “roll” enough times that’s it comedy.
What am I doing? I'm talking to an empty telephone
March 22, 2020, 12:22 AM
DaBigBR
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Originally posted by Doc H.: Tony Fauci - almost certainly - has more bonafide credentials than anyone standing on that morning stage. He has been in the public health arena since 1968, has served in one capacity or another through several administrations both Democrat and Republican, and is one of the world's premier experts on Ebola and HIV, as well as one of the most published authors on infectious diseases. He has in fact developed therapies for a number of - formerly - fatal diseases, and may be the world's leading expert on regulatory mechanisms regarding immune response and AIDS. I can't think of anyone less politically motivated, and anyone more interested in the public welfare.
Clearly he did all of that for the last 50+ years to set himself up to seem legit here...
In all seriousness, thank you for being a consistent voice of reason in this thread.
March 22, 2020, 12:57 AM
Micropterus
I thought this was interesting. Not sure if posted elsewhere.
TLDR - Stop eating fucking bats and close the wet markets.
Jesse
Sic Semper Tyrannis
March 22, 2020, 01:56 AM
skyline009
TLDR - Stop eating fucking bats and close the wet markets.[/QUOTE] It has nothing to do with bat, they fucking demolish the market already, first patient reported is a disable man never been to the market. In chinese medicine their is one ingredient using bat poop and it's been using that over thousand years.
March 22, 2020, 02:08 AM
Skins2881
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Originally posted by skyline009:
It has nothing to do with bat, they fucking demolish the market already, first patient reported is a disable man never been to the market. In chinese medicine their is one ingredient using bat poop and it's been using that over thousand years.
Ok so if it didn't come from a wet market and interspecies mutations/transmissions then where did it come from?
China cooked it up in a lab to unleash on the world? Vengeful God? Space aliens?
Originally posted by PASig: What was really bizarre was the cheerful female voice over the PA system urging everyone to practice good “social distance”, I felt like I was in some kind of twisted dystopian nightmare USA.
Things are a bit movielike, right? I've been recently reminded of "The Coming Days" (2010) again, which follows a Berlin family progressively breaking apart in small as the world breaks apart on a larger scale - civil war in Saudia Arabia with US intervention that widens into a greater fight of the West for the last oil reserves of Asia, a new wave of non-descript nihilistic terrorism, a refugee crisis, scarcity in the supermarkets, public upheaval, the EU crumbling south of Austria.
Read yesterday that there are only 4,000* ventilators for adults in all of the UK, one of the lowest numbers in Europe. Good grief, there's 25,000 over here, and even that is eyed sceptically now. The French military already had to airlift patients out of the particularly bad-hit Alsace region for treatment elsewhere. Germany and Switzerland are taking in some of them.
* ETA: This says about 8,000 with more on the way, which is better but still quite a bit from the 30,000 suggested to be required. No wonder carmakers everywhere are investigating plans of retooling to make the damn things. Though I understand that might take time we don't have.
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Coronavirus: 'Extraordinary' UK effort to produce thousands more ventilators
It comes after Matt Hancock made a public plea for help after it became apparent the UK would not have enough ventilators to cope.
Tom Parmenter
News correspondent
Saturday 21 March 2020 17:47, UK
UK firms collaborating to produce thousands more ventilators for the NHS say they are just days away from putting prototypes into production.
Last weekend, Health Secretary Matt Hancock made a public plea for help after it became apparent the UK would not have enough ventilators to cope with the expected numbers of patients with serious COVID-19 symptoms.
The Department of Health and Social Care confirmed they have asked suppliers to build "as many ventilators as they can".
The NHS said last week that they have a total of 8,175 respirators currently with more being made available to medics every day.
The offers of help have come from all kinds of British businesses from F1 racing teams to vacuum cleaner specialists.
Gtech have switched their focus from vacuum cleaners and garden machinery to producing ventilators and have a prototype that they believe is very close to production.
"My understanding is that we could need 30,000 (ventilators)," its founder Nick Grey told Sky News.
This was the first piece of relatively convincing optimistic news I've read in weeks. Now it's gone.
March 22, 2020, 06:30 AM
Micropterus
I understand that the Chinese (and other cultures) had to eat whatever they could find during periods of starvation. I get it. I understand it. But the Chinese have turned what was an emergency necessity into an industry with the government's encouragement. Some cultures it seems will stick anything in their mouths and call it a delicacy.
Not sure if this is Chinese, but it illustrates a point. She doesn't look like she's starving.
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March 22, 2020, 06:52 AM
Sunset_Va
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Originally posted by Micropterus: I understand that the Chinese (and other cultures) had to eat whatever they could find during periods of starvation. I get it. I understand it. But the Chinese have turned what was an emergency necessity into an industry with the government's encouragement. Some cultures it seems will stick anything in their mouths and call it a delicacy.
Not sure if this is Chinese, but it illustrates a point. She doesn't look like she's starving.
I hate the Chinese, they have just about eradicated many species with their ignorance in eating animals, including dogs and cats. And also their demand based also on ignorance, has led to poaching to supply animal parts for fake medicinal reasons , causing many species of animals to become highly endangered.
And coupled with most of the infectious diseses originating from China, is the reason I think China is the world's biggest problem, without getting into their politics.
The United States should learn from the Covid-19, and cut it's dependence on products from China .
Has anyone seen any info on training additional Respiratory Therapists to operator all these new respirators that we are building? I believe it is currently a two year training/certification process. I’m sure that could be cut way down, I’m sure if you absolutely needed a respirator it would be better to have one operated by someone with a 30 day crash course of OJT than to not have one at all. Maybe instead of dumping billions into corporate bailouts we should have a paid training program for unemployed people with an interest/aptitude to become 30 day “assisting respiratory therapists”
MOO means NO! Be the comet!
March 22, 2020, 07:49 AM
RichardC
My wife just returned from the Senior Citizen privileged shopping hour at Publix.
She reports that there were THREE uniformed police officers and one store employee rationing out one four-pack of TP per customer.
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March 22, 2020, 07:54 AM
Edmond
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Originally posted by Sunset_Va: I hate the Chinese, they have just about eradicated many species with their ignorance in eating animals, including dogs and cats. And also their demand based also on ignorance, has led to poaching to supply animal parts for fake medicinal reasons , causing many species of animals to become highly endangered.
And coupled with most of the infectious diseses originating from China, is the reason I think China is the world's biggest problem, without getting into their politics.
The United States should learn from the Covid-19, and cut it's dependence on products from China .
Not to mention their lack of pollution control, copyright laws, etc.
I hope the world learns a lesson from this and cuts dependence on cheap Chinese shit. And I hope the result of that is that it absolutely devastates the Chinese economy. We shouldn't let any Chinese here. They come here hating America and drive up the cost of housing. Example: Los Angeles and Orlando.
Yes, they absolutely hate us. I know a guy teaching English to Chinese in China, I call him a traitor, and he says they're learning English, their goal is to come here to study at our universities and overtake us. They come here and talk shit about how awful America is like many yet won't leave. Even the Chinese here who have been here for generations don't like the fresh off the boat Chinese.
Mainland Chinese are rude, crude, arrogant and should be kept away.
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March 22, 2020, 07:58 AM
Keystoner
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Originally posted by doublesharp: Time is the only thing that will tell if crippling our economy was worth it and it won't be long.
Time will never tell this. There will never be agreement on this.
