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Originally posted by 46and2:

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Originally posted by clubleaf206:
The governor of Kansas just announced that all K-12 schools will be closed for the rest of the year. (!) That includes private schooks.

What? That seems, well, excessive.

Yeah, just a bit...

A lot of these ridiculously lengthy closings will be rescinded at some point before the announced time.

Once again, I say that it seems to me that the human race is nowhere near as advanced as it considers itself to be. Albert Einstein was right- the only thing with limitess capacity is human stupidity.



'Don't let the Devil ride, 'cause if you let him ride, he's gonna wanna drive.'

Schools here are already closed until mid April. Another month and a half won't make much difference as far as the school year goes. They're setting stuff up online now. As far as impact on working parents....it'll be a clusterfuck.

I’ll just come out and say it. I’m waiting for a few of us to report in with it. Then I think we’ll get an honest assessment of severity and recovery.

I don’t wish it on anyone, but 80,000 members across the country is a pretty good sample size.

Stay safe.

Edit: apologies if I offended anyone.

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Originally posted by 46and2:

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Originally posted by clubleaf206:
The governor of Kansas just announced that all K-12 schools will be closed for the rest of the year. (!) That includes private schooks.

What? That seems, well, excessive.

That's the rest of the school year, right?

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Originally posted by DLC762:
Thankfully the restaurants/bars in WV are still open.

I've got some bad news for you....

CHARLESTON, W.Va. (AP) — All 50 U.S. states now have confirmed cases of the new coronavirus as West Virginia's governor announced the first positive test in his state on Tuesday evening.
Gov. Jim Justice said the person with the virus is in the state's Eastern Panhandle, a region close to Washington, D.C., though he didn't disclose the county where it was reported.
Justice used a televised address to announce new restrictions, ordering bars, restaurants and casinos to close with the except of carry-out food services. He did not address delivery services.
"This is real and it's really concerning," the governor said.

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Originally posted by sigalert:
I’ll just come out and say it. I’m waiting for a few of us to report in with it. Then I think we’ll get an honest assessment of severity and recovery.

I don’t wish it on anyone, but 80,000 members across the country is a pretty good sample size.

Stay safe.

Edit: apologies if I offended anyone.

Not offended. And I'm borderline for being at high risk (asthma, a bit overweight, prediabetic, 60+). It's the folks about 20 years older than myself I'm concerned for.

Given the observed transmissibility is higher than the flu, and the observed mortality rates among confirmed cases, the only real hope of this turning out to be no big deal is if HUGE numbers of people have gotten it without realizing it, many, many times as many as have been confirmed.

That is a possibility, but there is a growing body of evidence that it is not the case.

For example, South Korea has tested a lot of people, and is very aggressive about tracking down possible exposures and testing them. As of today, South Korea has performed 286,716 tests and gotten 8,320 positives. ( https://www.cdc.go.kr/board/board.es?mid=&bid=0030 )

In Italy, an entire town of 3,000 people was tested. From those tests, it is estimated that 50-75% of cases are asymptomatic. ( https://www.repubblica.it/salu...54518-C12-P3-S2.4-T1 in Italian but Google can translate it for you)

That data is not consistent with tens or hundreds of times as many undetected cases as confirmed cases, which would be required for this to be remotely in the same ballpark of threat level as a typical flu virus.

By all indications, this is much more dangerous both to individuals and to the population as a whole than a typical flu virus.

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Originally posted by 6guns:
Doc H or any other docs, can you comment on this video? Any truth to it? Is it worth considering for any virus?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkAjLe3l5SA

The very short answer is "no." A longer version is "Not only no, but hell no." Hair dryers, saunas, hot baths, sticking your head in an oven - no, no, no and no (although a hot bath or sauna does make you feel better). Heat high enough to even inconvenience the virus would likely more than inconvenience - as in "cook" - you, the human. The virus isn't sitting around waiting to be fried, but it's buried in your tissues, literally, in a very short time from exposure (the little guy floating around is actually a virion. It doesn't become a virus until it's actually inside a cell). Having said that, warm temperatures may, possibly, diminish the virus's ability to spread. Equatorial zones are, in fact, seeing a slight reduction in transmission. This could be artifact (not enough "n") or it could mean that there will indeed be a seasonal effect on this pathogen. I still hold out a possibility, although researchers disagree. We shall see.

Doc and kkina, thanks for your thoughts!

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Originally posted by kkina:

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Originally posted by 46and2:

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Originally posted by clubleaf206:
The governor of Kansas just announced that all K-12 schools will be closed for the rest of the year. (!) That includes private schooks.

What? That seems, well, excessive.

That's the rest of the school year, right?

(shakes head at self)

yes, surely.

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Originally posted by kkina:
That's the rest of the school year, right?

That is correct. The school year would be finished in May, anyway. But, will this also effect Summer School? She (the governor) also canceled proms and graduation ceremonies. Perhaps more importantly, nobody has explained how parents are supposed to arrange child care on short notice, especially when some day care centers are closed or unable to take in more children. Not supposed to have gatherings of more than 50 people, according to the county and state.

President Trump has proved time and time again to me that he has our best interests in mind and will do what's right by America. If this was a yuge nothingberger he would have let us know either by a press release or by readng between the lines in his actions.
I'm confident that once we get ahead of this virus our economy will rebound and we will once again be singing his praises as we continue to give the leftists the what's for.
I suggest we all simply follow his lead and let nature take its course for a couple weeks then get back to all the winning we so much enjoy.
Stop taking our frustrations out on each other and remember that we are all on the same side and are each others countrymen.

Looks like the Richwood Flea Market is closed now too.. Bummer. The U Haul part will still be open so maybe she will let me clock in as there is much to do on the property.

Both of my children are teachers whose school districts have been closed since Friday. My daughter received a call from the school district informing her that one of her students tested positive for the virus. The DOH directed her to self-quarantine while monitoring her temperature. Mrs 12GA and I are considered secondarily exposed and can go about our business including going to work.

We’ll see how this all works out.

I was informed an extended family who is an MD ob/gyn was diagnosed this morning with Covid19. There is some preliminary evidence of fairly alarming lung scarring of 20 year olds who had mild symptoms.

IMO this is blown out of proportion by

a) the media. who know there is little the Fed Gov't can do but who are pinning it on the Feds and Trump to make Trump the scapegoat to hopefully hurt his reelection chances, even if it destroys the economy, etc.

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b) those who want or depend on the the Nanny State and want the Nanny State to fix it and take care of them. Problem is, the Nanny State can't fix this except to close the borders, ease up on trucking regulations, etc.

This sucks. I'm not a truck driver but do make deliveries all day if I choose. With all the restaurants etc. closed, you can't stop, get out of the vehicle, and sit somewhere and eat and relax for a while to recharge.

Or, go to the bathroom. Have to go to a grocery store to use the bathroom. How long before grocery stores are drive-thru pickup only?

I can't stop and chill a few minutes over a slice of pizza and coke!

I believe I probably had this back in November or so.

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Originally posted by mikeyspizza:
IMO this is blown out of proportion .

100% correct but the cat is out of the bag and we have to deal with it.

OMG - it just got real for me.

You know how, as a dog owner, you're supposed to make sure your dog gets enough exercise every day to keep them healthy and calm? Walks and such every day lest they get anxious and hyper?



Well, my wife's gym has closed for the next few weeks.....

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Originally posted by midwest guy:
I was informed an extended family who is an MD ob/gyn was diagnosed this morning with Covid19. There is some preliminary evidence of fairly alarming lung scarring of 20 year olds who had mild symptoms.

Smokers or vapers?

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Originally posted by sjtill:
From UpToDate, a medical reference for physicians:

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Chloroquine/hydroxychloroquine – Both chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine inhibit SARS-CoV-2 in vitro, although hydroxychloroquine appears to have more potent antiviral activity [75]. A number of clinical trials are underway in China to evaluate the use of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine for COVID-19 [76].

From PubMed:
In Vitro Antiviral Activity and Projection of Optimized Dosing Design of Hydroxychloroquine for the Treatment of Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome Coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).

Here is an article from Stanford University recommending incorporating chloroquine and/or hydroxychloroquine into treatment guidelines, based on reports of successful use in China.

An Effective Treatment for Coronavirus (Covid-19)

Chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine are only available by prescription in the US, both are generic, but not very inexpensive per DrugRx.com (you can look that up). You can get discount coupons from DrugRx.com for whatever chain pharmacy you use.

I got a supply of hydroxychloroquine Sunday from Wal-Mart—not for prevention, but for treatment if needed.

Expect to see a run on these drugs.

I am actually prescribed that Plaquenil (HCQS) for R.A. and stopped taking it out of fear that it would beat up my immune system!