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You serious Clark? Seriously though, those numbers just aren’t playing out. If things were that bad with this virus then we would be seeing at least some of the same effects with those over here that are infected. Almost everyone that has died from this has been in China. Some of those numbers, like 20,000 dead, just doesn’t compute with what we are seeing here. I know someone that works at a pharmaceutical company that works as a researcher and has extensive experience working with their Ebola treatment drug. They’ve seen some of the best, most recent information on this flu and their takeaway is how sad it is that the Coronavirus gets all this attention and influenza gets so little. This just isn’t the superbug that some are making it out to be.This message has been edited. Last edited by: Lt CHEG, “It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat.” | |||
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The old wives tales, superstitions and Taoist belief traditions run very deep. The communists stamped out a lot of things, to include Western thought and practices but, those long held beliefs still remain true, for better or, worse. | |||
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That is a very informative site which is updated at intervals and appears to be associated with Johns Hopkins. Two days later, they're reporting over 28,000 cases worldwide. | |||
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As of now, 28,296 total confirmed, 28,039 in China. 565 total deaths, 1 in Hong Kong, 1 in Philippines, rest in China. Yes, it is continuing to blow up in China. It seems to be moving much slower elsewhere. | |||
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230 cases outside China; it’s virtually impossible that they are the only ones. China continues the blackout on outgoing information saying- “Countries “can assess the epidemic situation in an objective, fair, calm and rational manner, respect authoritative and professional WHO recommendations, understand and support China’s epidemic control efforts”. Kind of hard to support something when they’re quashing all attempts of communication from inside the country. And they wonder why nobody trusts them. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Wuhan passed 2 weeks quarantine yesterday- Haven't heard anything yet. ____________________________________________________ The butcher with the sharpest knife has the warmest heart. | |||
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Last night: 28,296 - 28,039 = 257 cases out of China. This morning: 28,347 - 28,088 = 257 cases out of China. It would be interesting to be able to scroll back in time on the Johns Hopkins page and see the change over time. It will be interesting to see how those brought back to the US and quarantined do. I sure hope they get a clean bill of health. | |||
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Want to know how incompetent the CDC is? They ONLY allow testing for coronavirus for people that have been to China or have had contact with a person that has been to China. So lets say your a doctor in Orlando and you are seeing a huge influx of serious flu and pneumonia cases. CDC will not even allow you to send in a few samples to see if they are possible coronavirus cases. Your patient MUST have visited China or been around someone that visited China. Thats it. THIS is how pandemics spread. Sticking your head in the sand and wishing the problem away. Its very possible that the 12 or so confirmed cases went out to restaurants, went to the grocery store, went on city buses or other large gatherings... and anyone that gets secondary infected, just some random guy that hasnt been to China, doesn't get tested because the CDC guidelines doesn't allow it. I'd expect "common flu and pneumonia" cases to start picking up drastically in the coming weeks. I think internally they are working off the data that its probable to become a world wide pandemic, and that they don't want to cause panic or disruption. Not yet anyways. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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Hardly incompetence, there aren't enough test kits to test the likely cases let alone spot test everyone with the sniffles. | |||
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30 crematoriums working 24/7 seems like a lot for just 565 people... but governments never lie. Wuhan crematoriums 'are burning bodies 24/7 to cope with extra workload during coronavirus outbreak'
A crematorium worker in the epicenter of the coronavirus outbreak has revealed the long working hours he and his colleagues are putting in to transfer bodies from hospitals and private homes. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...-extra-workload.html "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...-extra-workload.html The link says “China opens 11 hospitals after turning halls into medical centers”. I know something is being lost in translation but it sounds less like “outbreak” and more like “epidemic”. I wish the Chinese government would stop doing the covert routine if they want worldwide cooperation. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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Festina Lente |
How would a virus spread from a buried body? wouldn't mass graves be as effective? or is there something really different with this one that mandates incineration? Except for being significantly more visible. If #s are somewhat out of control in China, then cremating is the easiest way to reduce visible count. NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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Evidently, the Chinese are either getting desperate or are done dicking around. Wuhan has been ordered to round up all of the infected and place them in mass quarantine camps... https://www.google.com/amp/s/w...mp.html%3f0p19G=2870 I know it’s China, but this seems more than a little extreme for something we shouldn’t worry about. “Remember to get vaccinated or a vaccinated person might get sick from a virus they got vaccinated against because you’re not vaccinated.” - author unknown | |||
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It does seem a bit much. Assuming a two-hour average time per body, they should be caught up in several days working around the clock. | |||
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Original China Virus Whistleblower Doctor Dies https://www.zerohedge.com/heal...leblower-doctor-dies The Chinese doctor who tried to raise the alarm about the new coronavirus before it was even identified has died of the deadly virus. Dr. Li, 34, was hospitalized on January 12 after contracted the virus from his patient, and he was confirmed to have the coronavirus on February 1, and The World Health organization has just confirmed his passing... As a reminder, Li Wenliang - who warned the public of a potential "SARS-like" disease in December 2019 - was questioned by local health authority, and warned: "We solemnly warn you: If you keep being stubborn, with such impertinence, and continue this illegal activity, you will be brought to justice - is that understood?" Dr, Li was later summoned by Wuhan police to sign a reprimand letter in which he was accused of "spreading rumors online" and "severely disrupting social order." In the meantime, local authorities had apologized to him but that apology came too late, and now with 10s of millions of Chinese locked down under martial law, Wenliang was proven very much right. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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My stupid post: 2,400,000 people die in China everyday. Let's assume 28,000 people in China have died from this virus in the last 60 days. That brings the daily death total up to 2,400,466 per day, a .02% increase. Edited: I'm sorry. The death rate I posted above is completely ridiculous. I should have recognized it immediately. In fact, I had at one point. The 7th post of the first page I posted that 20 people in China die every minute. That's about 28,800 a day and was based on an annual rate of 7.44 deaths per 1,000 people. The crazy number I posted in this post was the first number I saw when googling for my post on page 1. I recognized it to be unbelievable then, but I grabbed it this time because it was familiar. Again, I'm sorry.This message has been edited. Last edited by: trapper189, | |||
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Chinese doctor who warned about coronavirus dies
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And what justice will the authorities face? One hopes for something harsh. At least in the form of karma. Perhaps they should succumb to the disease as well. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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Not sure where your # comes from... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_China, says ~10 million died in all of 2019. which is ~27,000 per day, without the virus. NRA Life Member - "Fear God and Dreadnaught" | |||
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thin skin can't win |
No kidding - that would be 876 million a year! There's gonna be a lot of free dirt, and nobody to make iPhones after killing off 60% of their population in a good year. You only have integrity once. - imprezaguy02 | |||
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