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Swine flu, 1977 was a gain-of-function lab leak. Prior to that, H1N1 was believed extinct by 1957.

Smallpox escaped a lab in England in 1966 and then twice in the 1970's.

The original SARS virus was likely a gain of function lab leak. Twice.

The Venezuelan equine encephalitis vaccine turned out to contain non-inactivated virus in the vaccine. From 1938 to 1972, the vaccine caused the outbreaks it was supposed to prevent. Then, in 1995 a lab leak caused another outbreak.

Remember the 2007 foot and mouth disease in Britain? They killed 10 million animals to stop the spread. Caused by a leak from a level 4 lab in Pirbright.

It seems we humans are the cause of our own pandemics!

Polio? Same story, man-caused.
 
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t seems we humans are the cause of our own pandemics!

Most of it caused by government-funded scientists.
Now why do we fund all of this excess government?



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Para beat me to it. Shelitha. Roll Eyes another Scrabble name.
 
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Probably not a lot of people have ever wished they took the jabs after the fact.

He makes great points. Also need to look at Fauci and his bank accounts.
 
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"Shelitha"

Atlanta's problems, in a nutshell
She ran for office promising to be
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  • Effective

  • Accountable
What's not to like?




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FDA Changes Course, Advises Updated COVID-19 Vaccines Target KP.2 Strain

https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...es-target-kp2-strain

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on June 13 changed course and recommended COVID-19 manufacturers target the KP.2 virus strain in their next round of shots.

The regulatory agency had said earlier this month it was following advice from its advisers and directing manufacturers to target the JN.1 variant.

The change “is intended to ensure that the COVID-19 vaccines (2024-2025 Formula) more closely match circulating SARS-CoV-2 strains,” the regulators said. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19.

The change is “based on the most current available data, along with the recent rise in cases of COVID-19 in areas of the country,” the FDA said in a statement.

The regulators, though, said manufacturers could choose whether or not to target KP.2, a sublineage of JN.1.

That likely means consumers will be presented with different vaccines in the fall, which the FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee advised against.

“I do think about some potential for confusion, particularly if there were different variants included in different vaccines,” Dr. Archana Chatterjee, one of the advisers, said during the committee’s recent meeting. “There’s enough confusion already about this vaccine.”

Pfizer and Moderna, which produce modified messenger ribonucleic acid (mRNA) vaccines, have said they can produce vaccines targeting KP.2 or JN.1. However, Novavax, which makes a protein-based vaccine, has said it developed a JN.1 vaccine and would not be able to shift to a KP.2-based product in time for the fall. Protein-based vaccines require more manufacturing time than mRNA shots.

JN.1 was displaced in May in the United States by KP.2 and KP.3, two sublineages, according to estimates from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. As of June 8, KP.3 was responsible for a quarter of the cases in the United States, and KP.2 was responsible for 22.5 percent of the cases in the country, according to the estimates.

The strains LB.1 and XDV.1 are also on the rise.

Advisers had noted that by the time the vaccines are available in September, the circulating strains might be different. That’s one reason they recommended targeting JN.1.

“If we’re going to stick with a monovalent for now, the trunk of the tree is the best bet,” said Dr. Bruce Gellin, another adviser.

Some advisers said they thought the new vaccines should contain multiple strains, but FDA officials rejected that advice and said the new shots will be monovalent.

The currently available vaccines from Pfizer, Moderna, and Novavax target the XBB.1.5, which was displaced in 2023 before the shots were brought to the market. They have been taken by 22.5 percent of adults and 14.4 percent of children, according to government surveys. The effectiveness of the vaccines quickly drops, according to data presented at the FDA meeting. [delete]

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The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) on June 13 changed course and recommended COVID-19 manufacturers target the KP.2 virus strain in their next round of shots.

The regulatory agency had said earlier this month it was following advice from its advisers and directing manufacturers to target the JN.1 variant.

The change “is intended to ensure that the COVID-19 vaccines (2024-2025 Formula) more closely match circulating SARS-CoV-2 strains,” the regulators said. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19.

The change is “based on the most current available data, along with the recent rise in cases of COVID-19 in areas of the country,” the FDA said in a statement.

The regulators, though, said manufacturers could choose whether or not to target KP.2, a sublineage of JN.1.

That likely means consumers will be presented with different vaccines in the fall, which the FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee advised against.

“I do think about some potential for confusion, particularly if there were different variants included in different vaccines,” Dr. Archana Chatterjee, one of the advisers, said during the committee’s recent meeting. “There’s enough confusion already about this vaccine.”

Yeah… there’s enough confusion already…
Wait, no there’s not…
Don’t take either one.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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A heart-rending clip making the rounds this weekend showed the halting testimony of a covid vaccine-injured pharmacist. Former pharmacist. He’s 100% disabled now. Mike Yoha testified last week before an Ohio house committee considering the fabulous Conscientious Right to Refuse Act, H.B. 319:

CLIP: Guilliane Barre injured pharmacist Mike Yoha testifies in support of Right to Refuse (5:34).

https://x.com/VigilantFox/status/1801781505829531934



Mr. Yoha represents the jagged tip of a bloody iceberg of pain, disability, and tears. I encourage all Ohio C&Cers to ceaselessly lobby their legislators to pass this critical bill, which would be a first in the Nation and an example for all right-thinking citizens in other states to follow. In short, H.B. 319 would award attorney’s fees and treble damages to any Ohio employee experiencing discrimination for declining a mandated medical intervention.

Here’s the link to the Bill,
https://search-prod.lis.state....319_00_IN?format=pdf
and here is the Bill’s mot juste:

(B) A business, employer, including an administrator or supervisor, health plan issuer, health care provider, hospital, institution, nursing home, person, political subdivision, private college, public official, residential care facility, state agency, or state institution of higher education shall not do any of the following based on an individual's refusal of any biologic, vaccine, pharmaceutical, drug, gene editing technology, RNA-based product, or DNA-based product for reasons of conscience, including religious convictions:

Keep a couple things in mind. First, we need a federal version of this bill, which should be uncontroversial but remains impossible so long as democrats control any of the House, Senate, or Presidency. Second, after long thought over all these years, I’ve come up with only one narrow case where it might be legitimate for an employer to require vaccination: when the employee’s job duties include international travel to foreign countries requiring particular vaccinations for entry. But that’s it.

We have to start somewhere. Come on, Buckeyes!

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com...rue&utm_medium=email



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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Kansas Sues Pfizer Over Covid-19 Vaccine’s Safety, Efficacy

https://news.bloomberglaw.com/...ack&utm_medium=email

Kansas on Monday sued Pfizer Inc., accusing the pharmaceutical giant of misrepresenting the safety of its Covid-19 vaccine and violating the state’s consumer protection law.

The lawsuit was filed by state Attorney General Kris Kobach in Kansas District Court, Thomas County. The suit alleges the drugmaker misled the public when it said it had a safe and effective Covid-19 vaccine.

Pfizer said its vaccine would prevent the transmission of Covid-19, even though the company knew it never studied the effect of its vaccine on transmission of the virus, according to the lawsuit.

“Pfizer said its COVID-19 vaccine was safe even though it knew its COVID-19 vaccine was connected to serious adverse events, including myocarditis and pericarditis, failed pregnancies, and deaths,” the state wrote in the complaint.

Pfizer’s actions and statements relating to its Covid-19 vaccine violated the Kansas Consumer Protection Act, regardless of whether any individual consumer ultimately received Pfizer’s Covid-19 vaccine, the complaint said.

The company administered more than 3.5 million vaccine doses in Kansas as of Feb. 7, 2024, according to the lawsuit.

The complaint also said Pfizer maintained its own adverse events database, separate from the federal Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS), a national early warning system managed by the Food and Drug Administration and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention to detect possible safety problems in US-licensed vaccines.

Pfizer’s database contained cases of adverse events reported spontaneously to Pfizer, cases reported by the health authorities, and cases published in the medical literature, according to the suit.

“Upon information and belief, Pfizer’s adverse events database contained more adverse event data than VAERS because it included both information in VAERS and information not in VAERS,” Kobach wrote.

Pfizer in an email statement said “the representations made by Pfizer about its COVID-19 vaccine have been accurate and science-based” and the company “believes that the state’s case has no merit and will respond to the suit in due course.”

“Since its initial authorization by FDA in December 2020, the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine has been administered to more than 1.5 billion people, demonstrated a favorable safety profile in all age groups, and helped protect against severe COVID-19 outcomes, including hospitalization and death,” the company said.

The state seeks damages for Pfizer’s violations of the Kansas Consumer Protection Act and asks the court to order Pfizer to pay civil penalties for alleged violations of previous consent orders with the state.

The case is Kansas v. Pfizer Inc., Kan. Dist. Ct., No. unavailable, 6/17/24.


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If anything is deserving of a WAR or retaliation, this is it and China is deserving of a NUKE.
Big Pharma and our Government were shameful in handling this and a we should get all our tax money back.
Big Pharma needs to be taken down a peg or two for their culpability and collusion with our Government. Mad
 
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I hope this thing grows legs and the big players don’t slip into the cracks. Big pharma and the government were complicit in that they intentionally orchestrated a flawed response. It was a combined power/cash grab. We can only hope the people that were legitimately duped because they trusted the powers that be don’t get fooled again when they really wind up plandemic 2.0, ie- bird flu. You only have to google “bird flu” to see they are well on their way to trying to instigate the same panic and division they did with Covid.




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I hope this thing grows legs and the big players don’t slip into the cracks. Big pharma and the government were complicit in that they intentionally orchestrated a flawed response.



And I hope to that extent, all of those responsible pay a price.

However, I don't want to see a single penny of tax dollars spent to compensate anybody who was injured. Everybody was well aware that there would be zero liability by law when they accepted it. I'm tired of things like this (and say student loans for example) where people agreed to terms, and then expect something different at a later date.


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However, I don't want to see a single penny of tax dollars spent to compensate anybody who was injured. Everybody was well aware that there would be zero liability by law when they accepted it. I'm tired of things like this (and say student loans for example) where people agreed to terms, and then expect something different at a later date.

I agree with that.

However, employers should not be exempted from liability if they mandated the shot as a condition of continued employment. Those people were coerced into taking an experimental injection and most felt that they had no real choice.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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I’m sure that what seems like the right response to me will never happen. I agree that the taxpayer should not pay a penny to make whole those harmed by following the government directives.

However, I think there should be a sliding scale of punishment for those in government and industry involved in perpetrating this fraud on the American people (and the world, but we should put our own house in order).

The most egregious (looking at you Fauci, but I’m sure there are plenty of others) should be tried, convicted, have all their assets confiscated to compensate victims, and be executed. This level of punishment might give pause to those thinking about the next go around.

Lesser guilty, but still culpable should have all assets confiscated (including any pensions), and if in government, banned from ever holding any government position again, or ever receiving any benefit or support from the government.

Malfeasant corporations should be heavily fined, but rather than the common model where the shareholders take it in the shorts and the execs get away with a slap on the wrist if that, any execs (or other employees significantly involved - think scientists inventing and “testing” this garbage) should be significantly fined, up to and including (depending on the level of culpability) confiscation of all assets and a lifetime ban on any government benefits. If it can be proven that senior folks made the decision to push forward with this stuff against public benefit, execution should not be off the table, but should require a high standard of proving at least reckless indifference of the damage done to the public health in search of lining one’s pocket.

And yeah, the shareholders should take it in the shorts (through fines to the corporation), because as the owners, they should be watching their employees, but they shouldn’t be the only ones punished.

Of course this is all a fantasy. I doubt that there is anything in our legal system that would allow for these punishments, and even if there were, there certainly isn’t any stomach in those who would have to bring the charges in doing so.
 
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Can anyone explain why anyone would ever do gain of function research on this stuff?

What do any other think their work is going to be used for?
 
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Vaccine injury report among the military!
From Catherine Herridge

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/sta...vTxVb1Nk56SGVu2qG4aw




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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