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^^^ Yep...
And, just like that, it was over.

It's Over: CDC Says People Exposed To COVID No Longer Need To Quarantine

No symptoms? No problem.
Vaccinated or unvaccinated? Same guidance.
Exposed? No need to even quarantine.
Students exposed? They can stay in class, what the hell, right?

If you managed to maintain your integrity through this awful period of time, congratulations! You are one of the rock stars of this story. You are a solid individual who has courage and stood firm and tall when it mattered most.

As for the people who didn’t, some can be forgiven. But many cannot.

Those who could have and “should” have known better? The doctors who failed to utilize known and proven early treatments to save lives? The public health authorities that locked people down and forced masks onto children’s faces without a shred of supporting science to back those decisions? Medical hospital administrators who took the monetary bait and forced patients onto toxic and deadly regimens of Remdesivir and ventilators (again, without any supporting evidence!). The NIH treatment panel that still – to this day – does not recommend vitamin D, or any of the other actual safe and effective early treatments?

Sorry, not sorry, those people need to suffer real and lasting public consequences. Some doctors should lose their licenses. Some bureaucrats need to lose their jobs while others need to go to trial.

I feel most acutely for those who got caught up and suffered terribly as a result. I feel truly awful for all the people prevented from being at a loved one’s passing, or who ,as a condition of continued employment, were coerced into getting Covid jabs they neither wanted nor needed.

There are far too many tragic cases out there. Far too many young lives were lost and continue to be lost. I am angry that it happened and at the petty, ignorant bureaucrats who forced it to happen. “Sudden Adult Death Syndrome” is a thing now, and the attempts to normalize it by the press have left me thinking that those companies and journalists who engaged in this ought to be barred for life from ever being in the business again.

One prominent case of an avoidable tragedy was that of 17-year-old Sean Hartman:

Dan Hartman is sure that his hockey-loving son died from a COVID vaccination, but he’s being told very little about what happened. The Ontario dad says he wants answers about the sudden death of 17-year-old Sean.

“I cannot grieve him properly without the truth. It’s different if someone dies in a car accident or disease or suicide. This is none of them—this is unknown,” said Hartman in an interview on NTD’s “The Nation Speaks” program aired on July 30.

According to the Beeton Athletic Association Cash Draw’s tribute to Sean, he began playing hockey at age 5 and went on to play for the TNT Tornadoes in New Tecumseth, Ontario, for three years before returning to his hometown of Beeton in his major Bantam year.

Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the Ontario Minor Hockey Association implemented a policy that required players aged 12 and over to be vaccinated or risk not being able to play.

Hartman said that Sean decided to get the shot last August in order to continue playing, as hockey was his passion. In Ontario, there is no minimum age of consent under the Health Care Consent Act, which means youth of Sean’s age can get vaccinated without parental consent.

“So, on August 25, he had the Pfizer vaccine. And on August 29, he went to the emergency [room]—he had brown circles around his eyes, and a rash and he was vomiting,” Hartman said.

“They sent him home with only Advil. The doctor didn’t do two blood tests that he should have done. I’ve been told by another doctor that he should have done them. And on the morning of September 27, he was found dead on the floor beside his bed.”

(Source: Epoch Times)

There are thousands and thousands of similar and tragic cases. Too many.

All along the way, I have been saying the same thing as Drs. McCullough, Malone, Urso, Kory, Marik, Rose, and Steve Kirsch among many others; the Covid vaccines should never have been put into every possible person.

There should have been an age and risk stratification approach. Only some people should have gotten them, but never into healthy children. Never.

The demonization of even simple and entirely appropriate questioning was horrific and continues on to this day, as I outlined in a recent video on “Fact Checkers” wherein I covered a truly horrific New York Times article by Sheera Frenkel. In it, Ms. Frenkel went overboard on hyperbolic, emotionally-laden verbiage in a brazen attempt to mischaracterize any questioning by parents as being entirely due to misinformation, conspiracy theories, and a black-and-white stance as “anti-vaxers.”

Well, if hesitant parents are anti-vaxers, then we have to say that those folks are in the vast majority (and rightly so) while it is Ms. Frenkel and the New York Times who are horribly out of alignment with the data.

Far from being fringe, the view that children do not need the Covid-19 jab, it turns out, represents either a significant minority (for older age cohorts) or indeed an overwhelming majority (for younger) of parents both within the U.S., the UK and elsewhere.

Are the 95% of U.S. parents who have declined to get their 0-5 year olds vaccinated for Covid-19 ‘anti-vax?’ What about the 89% of UK parents who as of the end of July had declined vaccination for their 5-11 year olds?

Of course they aren’t. They are simply recognising the reality that the extreme age discrimination of Covid makes vaccination unnecessary for the vast majority of otherwise healthy kids, as does infection-acquired immunity.

(Source – The Demonization of Dissent)

How it ever came to be that “the Left” became the biggest cheerleaders of court-proven corrupt pharma companies is for the psychologists and social scientists to unravel. Maybe we could include some ethicists and prosecutors as well.
Early Treatments

More importantly and tellingly in this sad saga, early treatments should have been discovered and wisely used, as they were in many other countries.

The simple fact that the pair of charts displayed below weren’t ever a healthy and vigorous topic of discussion speaks volumes about just how bad the corruption really was.

https://www.zerohedge.com/mark...gular-testing-except



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Well that was a hell of a “2 weeks”.



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Well that was a hell of a “2 weeks”.


Flattened the curve, though, didn't we? Mad Roll Eyes
 
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I see where a number of cruise lines will open their boats to the unvaccinated.

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Is there something coming up in less than three months? I can’t remember, can’t quite put my finger on it but I seem to recall there was something.

Nahhh…just coincidence I’m sure!

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^^^Yet, Filthydelphia School district is requiring masks be worn for the first 10 days of school, but pre-schoolers must wear masks the entire year.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/phi...ust-mask-up-all-year

Yeah, trust the science.


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I see where a number of cruise lines will open their boats to the unvaccinated.

Carnival Link


This is a start.
My wife and I like to go on cruises. We were on one of the last cruises out of Port Canaveral Florida in February/March 2020.

The problem right now is that the cruise lines are not consistent in who can sail to and from certain ports. Things like, can I sale on the ship even if one of three ports requires a vaccine, but just not get off the ship at that port.




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I see where a number of cruise lines will open their boats to the unvaccinated.


That ship has sailed.

If you didn't need my business the last 2 years because I wouldn't jump through your hoops, you don't need it now. I have a long list of those I'll never do business with again, and several others who I have added in their place.


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I see where a number of cruise lines will open their boats to the unvaccinated.


That ship has sailed.

If you didn't need my business the last 2 years because I wouldn't jump through your hoops, you don't need it now. I have a long list of those I'll never do business with again, and several others who I have added in their place.


I understand your feelings and agree, unfortunately the US port based cruise ships were regulated by the CDC.
The CDC set the rules and the cruise industry had no choice if they wanted to sail again. It took a court case in Florida last year to determine if the CDC could continue what they were doing.




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We'll still wait a bit before booking our next cruise so that the ports all remove jab and/or test requirements.

I know a bunch of people who have caught C19 on a cruise in the past couple of months. All were fully jabbed and boosted, as was everybody else on the ship. All were subject to testing before getting on the ship. Some were on ships requiring masking in public spaces. Most say they are grateful for the jabs or else their illness would have been much worse. Roll Eyes
 
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I know a bunch of people who have caught C19 on a cruise in the past couple of months.
Not necessarily "on the cruise". There is a good chance they picked up the wuflu on the airplane traveling to the departure city. So...you test negative before leaving home, fly to port city, test negative again to get onboard the ship and then test positive 2-3 days after boarding. Yea, it's those 100-200 of your newest best friends you are sitting with in that cramped airplane for x-number of hours.

Then watch the idiots go thru the breakfast & lunch buffet lines, licking their hands, touching the serving utensils, coughing/sneezing over the food, etc. "Oh, I'm not sick."


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Yea, it's those 100-200 of your newest best friends you are sitting with in that cramped airplane for x-number of hours.


False.

And you couldn’t pay me money to take a cruise on a cruise ship. Furthermore, you'd have to hold a gun to my head before I'd ever take or allow my young children on a cruise ship.


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...you'd have to hold a gun to my head before I'd ever take or allow my young children on a cruise ship.
It's none of my business, but I think you should consider switching travel agents. Razz
 
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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:
I know a bunch of people who have caught C19 on a cruise in the past couple of months.
Not necessarily "on the cruise". There is a good chance they picked up the wuflu on the airplane traveling to the departure city. So...you test negative before leaving home, fly to port city, test negative again to get onboard the ship and then test positive 2-3 days after boarding. Yea, it's those 100-200 of your newest best friends you are sitting with in that cramped airplane for x-number of hours.

Then watch the idiots go thru the breakfast & lunch buffet lines, licking their hands, touching the serving utensils, coughing/sneezing over the food, etc. "Oh, I'm not sick."


True, but....

One couple at the end of a 7 day cruise were feeling a bit congested, flew home, and tested positive the next day. They caught the wu-lab-flu on the boat. And they were fully jabbed and double boosted.

Another person tested positive after arriving home. The timing is such she caught it on the ship.

Another couple work full time on a cruise ship. Fully jabbed and boosted and damned proud of it. They either caught it on the ship or at a port, but not on an airplane or in an airport.

This is all getting a bit moot now that the CDC has changed their rules and the cruise lines are too. Still, the point remains that all of these fully jabbed and boosted people came down with significant illness despite all the pre-cruise testing, port testing, masking in public spaces, etc. Proof that the policy of requiring passengers and crew to have taken the full course of poison shots was useless.

Meanwhile, I don't know anyone unjabbed who is getting as ill with C19 as any of those people, nor are they getting repeat infections or relapses.
 
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IRONY ALERT

Now the CEO of Pfizer tests positive for Covid despite being “fully vaccinated and double boosted”. Predictably, he is grateful to be protected by “vaccines” that keep infection from being severe but somehow aren’t good enough to keep him from catching the bug the “vaccine” is supposed to target or stop the spread of. Do these people really think anyone is buying their bullshit?

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna43134

Pfizer CEO Albert Bourla tests positive for Covid, says he is experiencing very mild symptoms

Bourla, 60, said he had started a course of the company’s oral Covid-19 antiviral treatment, Paxlovid, and was isolating and following all public health precautions.

“I am confident that I will have a speedy recovery,” Bourla said in a statement.

Several public figures have tested positive for the infectious disease in the past few months including President Joe Biden and his chief medical adviser, Dr. Anthony Fauci.

Biden spent more than two weeks isolated in the White House after two bouts with Covid-19. The second instance is believed to be a “rebound” experienced by some Covid patients who take Paxlovid.

Paxlovid is an antiviral medication that is used to treat high-risk people, such as older patients.

Bourla has received four doses of the Covid vaccine developed by Pfizer and its German partner BioNTech.




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Defense Secretary Austin positive for COVID for second time

His last COVID diagnosis came in January after getting a booster in October

https://www.foxnews.com/us/def...ve-covid-second-time

Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin said Monday he has tested positive for COVID-19, is experiencing mild symptoms and will quarantine at home. It's the second time Austin has gotten the coronavirus.

In a statement, Austin, 69, said his is fully vaccinated and has received two boosters. He said he'll quarantine for the next five days in accordance with CDC guidelines and "will retain all authorities and plan to maintain my normal work schedule virtually from home."

Austin said his last in-person contact with President Joe Biden was on July 29.

In January, Austin also contracted COVID and had received a booster in October.


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There sure are a lot of people that are “vaccinated” getting Covid multiple times.


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First Lady Jill Biden Tests Positive for COVID-19, Will Isolate in South Carolina
Biden began to develop cold-like symptoms Monday evening, nearly a month after the president first tested positive for COVID-19.



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Like I’ve been saying, everyone will be infected eventually. Covid zero was a lunatic’s errand.



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How utterly absurd is it that whenever any high profile person catches a cold it is now headline news? Roll Eyes


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