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June 08, 2019, 06:39 AM
tacfoley
War grave desecration in UK...
What would happen in the USA to the scumbags who did this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-48553889
June 08, 2019, 07:39 AM
MikeinNC
Sad.

I know what I would do if I found the culprit.



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June 08, 2019, 08:26 AM
arfmel
What kind of imbeciles would do such a thing?
June 08, 2019, 08:28 AM
lyman
quote:
Originally posted by tacfoley:
What would happen in the USA to the scumbags who did this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-48553889



depends on where it was,

usually just charges for trespass or property damage, and if lucky, restitution for $$ spent to restore,

however a lot of the times no one is caught



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June 08, 2019, 08:42 AM
recoatlift
If I had a sympathetic jury, I might get out in 25 years.
June 08, 2019, 08:47 AM
ShneaSIG
quote:
Originally posted by tacfoley:
What would happen in the USA to the scumbags who did this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-48553889


Not enough, unfortunately.


-ShneaSIG


Oh, by the way, which one's "Pink?"
June 08, 2019, 08:56 AM
TigerDore
Done just before the commemoration of D-Day? The Left doesn't like being reminded of their failures.
June 08, 2019, 09:08 AM
PowerSurge
quote:
Originally posted by arfmel:
What kind of imbeciles would do such a thing?


Someone who knows they could never muster the courage to defend freedom or anything else.


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The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. Psalm 14:1
June 08, 2019, 10:23 AM
arcwelder
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
Done just before the commemoration of D-Day? The Left doesn't like being reminded of their failures.


How does this have anything to do with the failures of the left?


Arc.
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June 08, 2019, 11:06 AM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
Done just before the commemoration of D-Day? The Left doesn't like being reminded of their failures.


How does this have anything to do with the failures of the left?

Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito lost WWII.



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June 08, 2019, 01:07 PM
sigcrazy7
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
Done just before the commemoration of D-Day? The Left doesn't like being reminded of their failures.


How does this have anything to do with the failures of the left?

Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito lost WWII.



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Confused
Who were all considered on the right, as opposed to FDR and Stalin, on the left. Even in the U.K. the left was in power before the end of the war.



Demand not that events should happen as you wish; but wish them to happen as they do happen, and you will go on well. -Epictetus
June 08, 2019, 01:27 PM
tacfoley
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
Done just before the commemoration of D-Day? The Left doesn't like being reminded of their failures.


How does this have anything to do with the failures of the left?

Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito lost WWII.



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Confused
Who were all considered on the right, as opposed to FDR and Stalin, on the left. Even in the U.K. the left was in power before the end of the war.


Only just. However, bear in mind that the 'left' in UK was absolutely nothing like the 'left' of the Soviet Union.
June 08, 2019, 01:47 PM
davetruong
quote:
Originally posted by tacfoley:
What would happen in the USA to the scumbags who did this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-48553889


In California? They'd get a $50 fine and do community service for a few hours.


God, Family, Country.

June 08, 2019, 02:10 PM
Sig2340
Their proctologist would need a jack hammer to perform a colonstonectomy.





Nice is overrated

"It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government."
Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018
June 08, 2019, 02:44 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:


Confused
Who were all considered on the right, as opposed to FDR and Stalin, on the left. Even in the U.K. the left was in power before the end of the war.

Hitler and Mussolini were socialists. They were as different from Stalin as the Bloods are different from the Crips. Leftists(socialists, communists, etc) are proponents of totalitarian government. Totalitarianism, in any form, ultimately has the same effect on the masses.



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June 08, 2019, 03:01 PM
2012BOSS302
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
Who were all considered on the right

Well we know that is fake news lies from back then until today.
Hitler -> Socialist -> Racist. He was a leftist
Mussolini -> Socialist -> Racist. Fascist (a real one) - He was a leftist
Stalin -> Communist-Marxist-Leninist. He was a leftist
They all had socialist-communist-marxist-roots defiantly NOT on the right - all a fabrication by the left.

To OP, I had seen this story on another website, and the comments on who everyone thought had done it were most likely correct - similar to who is desecrating the christian symbols. Stuff like this has happened in the US, it won't go over well with the average US loving American if it increases.




Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless.
June 08, 2019, 03:02 PM
arcwelder
quote:
Originally posted by tacfoley:
quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
Done just before the commemoration of D-Day? The Left doesn't like being reminded of their failures.


How does this have anything to do with the failures of the left?

Hitler, Mussolini and Hirohito lost WWII.


Confused
Who were all considered on the right, as opposed to FDR and Stalin, on the left. Even in the U.K. the left was in power before the end of the war.


Only just. However, bear in mind that the 'left' in UK was absolutely nothing like the 'left' of the Soviet Union.


Hitler wasn't "left."

Let's not muck with history. Just because the leftists of today don't understand what fascism is, and Trump is "literally Hitler," it doesn't mean anyone else need confuse themselves of what was going on at that time.

The communism and socialism of the Soviet Union, and socialism of the left today, have nothing to do with the roots and official name of the Nazi party.


Arc.
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"Like a bitter weed, I'm a bad seed"- Johnny Cash
"I'm a loner, Dottie. A rebel." - Pee Wee Herman
Rode hard, put away wet. RIP JHM
"You're a junkyard dog." - Lupe Flores. RIP

June 08, 2019, 03:17 PM
TigerDore
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:

Hitler wasn't "left."


The communism and socialism of the Soviet Union, and socialism of the left today, have nothing to do with the roots and official name of the Nazi party.

Hitler was definitely left. He was a socialist, as was Mussolini. There's no question about his ideology, or the ideology of his German national socialist party.

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Link to the Mises Institute article:

https://mises.org/library/why-...cialism-totalitarian

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Excerpt from a Hitler interview in Life Magazine in 1932:


‘When I take charge of Germany, I shall end tribute abroad and Bolshevism at home.’

Adolf Hitler drained his cup as if it contained not tea but the lifeblood of Bolshevism.

‘Bolshevism’, the chief of the Brown Shirts, the Fascists of Germany continued, ‘is our greatest menace. Kill Bolshevism in Germany and you restore 70 million people to power. France owes her strength not to her armies but to the forces of Bolshevism and dissension in our midst’…

I met Hitler not in his headquarters, the Brown House in Munich, but in a private home, the dwelling of a former admiral of the German Navy. We discussed the fate of Germany over the teacups.

‘Why’, I asked Hitler, ‘do you call yourself a National Socialist, since your party program is the very anthesis of that commonly accredited to Socialism?’

‘Socialism’, he retorted, putting down his cup of tea, ‘is the science of dealing with the common weal [health or well-being]. Communism is not Socialism. Marxism is not Socialism. The Marxians have stolen the term and confused its meaning. I shall take Socialism away from the Socialists.

‘Socialism is an ancient Aryan, Germanic institution. Our German ancestors held certain lands in common. They cultivated the idea of the common weal. Marxism has no right to disguise itself as socialism. Socialism, unlike Marxism, does not repudiate private property. Unlike Marxism, it involves no negation of personality and, unlike Marxism, it is patriotic.

‘We might have called ourselves the Liberal Party. We chose to call ourselves the National Socialists. We are not internationalists. Our Socialism is national. We demand the fulfilment of the just claims of the productive classes by the State on the basis of race solidarity. To us, State and race are one…

‘What’, I continued my cross-examination, ‘are the fundamental planks of your platform?’

‘We believe in a healthy mind, in a healthy body. The body politic must be sound if the soul is to be healthy. Moral and physical health are synonymous.’

‘Mussolini’, I interjected, ‘said the same to me’. Hitler beamed.

‘The slums’, he added, ‘are responsible for nine-tenths, alcohol for one-tenth of all human depravity. No healthy man is a Marxian. Healthy men recognise the value of personality. We contend against the forces of disaster and degeneration. Bavaria is comparatively healthy because it is not completely industrialised… If we wish to save Germany, we must see to it that our farmers remain faithful to the land. To do so, they must have room to breathe and room to work.’

‘Where will you find the room to work?’

‘We must retain our colonies and expand eastward. There was a time when we could have shared world domination with England. Now we must stretch our cramped limbs only toward the east. The Baltic is necessarily a German lake.'”

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Coming out of college, I believed the lie of right wing Nazi's, Fascists, etc. But, through my own study, I eventually realized that my understanding was based in left wing indoctrination from college professors. A study of the basis for Mussolini's party, along with Hitler's NAZI party, along with an understanding of Leftism in general, helped me to understand the vapidness of the concepts I was holding.

Socialism, communism, Marxism, NAZI socialism: they are all forms of totalitarian control, which is a Leftist ideology. The Right, or conservatism (or the classic liberalism of our founding fathers), wants minimalist government and maximum freedom for a society. Totalitarianism cannot exist in a minimalist government. Totalitarianism can no more be right wing than a snowflake can cling to a July sidewalk in Texas.



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June 08, 2019, 03:21 PM
Gustofer
quote:
Originally posted by arcwelder76:
quote:
Originally posted by TigerDore:
Done just before the commemoration of D-Day? The Left doesn't like being reminded of their failures.


How does this have anything to do with the failures of the left?


Really?

Do you honestly think a conservative would do this?


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June 08, 2019, 03:26 PM
Aglifter
Arcwelder, Google the NAZI platform. They were definitely left.