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Not to be vague so let me relate. The story about 56 Men posted a few years back. Were it not for a Member here, many of us were quite surprised to learn about the signers of The Declaration of Independance. Its not even taught in public schools. A historian once said "We cant know where we are going, if we dont know where we have been." And then, this evening, a friend shared the meaning of a flag draped coffin. Thirteen folds in the United States Flag and its final shape after the tuck. Again, I cannot save and post links via cell. It is a short read and sets in better than video. Can someone do the honor of looking up the Flag draped coffin story and post for us? I bet there are many a Veteran who know. I just turned 62 and learned of this tonight. Thank you and enjoy.
 
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flag draped coffin


Is this what you are looking for David?
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https://www.military.com/flag-...d-13-flag-folds.html




The Flag Itself
The portion of the flag denoting honor is the canton of blue containing the stars representing states our veterans served in uniform. The field of blue dresses from left to right and is inverted only when draped as a funeral cloth over the casket of a veteran who has served our country honorably in uniform. In the U.S. Armed Forces, at the ceremony of retreat, the flag is lowered, folded in a triangle and kept under watch throughout the night as a tribute to our nation's honored dead. The next morning it is brought out and, at a ceremony of reveille, flown high as a symbol of belief in the resurrection of the body.


Meaning Behind the 13 Folds
The flag-folding ceremony represents the same religious principles on which our great country was originally founded.

The first fold of our flag is a symbol of life.

The second fold is a symbol of our belief in eternal life.

The third fold is made in honor and remembrance of the veteran departing our ranks, and who gave a portion of his or her life for the defense of our country to attain peace throughout the world.

The fourth fold represents our weaker nature; as American citizens trusting in God, it is Him we turn to in times of peace, as well as in times of war, for His divine guidance.

The fifth fold is a tribute to our country. In the words of Stephen Decatur, "Our country, in dealing with other countries, may she always be right, but it is still our country, right or wrong."

The sixth fold is for where our hearts lie. It is with our heart that we pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

The seventh fold is a tribute to our armed forces, for it is through the armed forces that we protect our country and our flag against all enemies, whether they be found within or without the boundaries of our republic.

The eighth fold is a tribute to the one who entered into the valley of the shadow of death, that we might see the light of day, and to honor our mother, for whom it flies on Mother's Day.

The ninth fold is a tribute to womanhood. It has been through their faith, love, loyalty and devotion that has molded the character of the men and women who have made this country great.

The 10th fold is a tribute to father, who has also given his sons and daughters for the defense of our country since he or she was first born.

The 11th fold represents the lower portion of the seal of King David and King Solomon and glorifies the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob.

The 12th fold represents an emblem of eternity and glorifies God the Father, the Son and Holy Ghost.

The 13th and last fold, when the flag is completely folded, the stars are uppermost, reminding us of our national motto, "In God We Trust."

After the Folding Ceremony

After the flag is completely folded and tucked in, it has the appearance of a cocked hat, ever reminding us of the soldiers who served under Gen. George Washington and the sailors and Marines who served under Capt. John Paul Jones and were followed by their comrades and shipmates in the U.S. Armed Forces, preserving for us the rights, privileges and freedoms we enjoy today.

The source and the date of origin of this Flag Folding Procedure is unknown. However, some sources attribute it to the Gold Star Mothers of America while others to an Air Force chaplain stationed at the United States Air Force Academy. Some sources also indicate that the 13 folds are a nod to the original first 13 colonies. The flag folding ceremony is provided as a patriotic service.




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Good morning and thank you. I wonder how many knew what the folds stood for? I certainly did not.
 
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That’s pretty great. Thank you for sharing that. Definitely not something we learned at school.



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Thanks for the posting. It reminded me of a veterans funeral several years. While inside of the chapel a flag folding was conducted as someone read off the meanings of each fold. Very moving service. God bless our troops be they past/ present/ future. ......................................... drill sgt.
 
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I too have attended military funerals where those meanings were read aloud during the flag folding ceremony. From my knothole they always should be. Smile



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Thank you for the info, I wasn't aware of that.

A few years ago a good friend's father passed away, I was asked to do a dedicatory prayer for the grave site, there was a formal flag ceremony. (Turns out the friend's father received some hero medals for his service in the Pacific in WWII, I didn't know that until he funeral). Very moving.

And last year, I received the same request for my father's funeral, my cousin conducted the flag ceremony.




"Liberty lies in the hearts of men and women. When it dies there, no constitution, no law, no court can save it....While it lies there, it needs no constitution, no law, no court to save it"
- Judge Learned Hand, May 1944
 
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