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Peruta Review Denied
June 26, 2017, 09:02 AM
JALLENPeruta Review Denied
Supreme Court declined to review the Peruta case out of San Diego, dealing with concealed carry rules. Thomas and Gorsuch dissent.
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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown June 26, 2017, 09:12 AM
oddballPeruta is done. Not surprising.
"I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965
June 26, 2017, 09:29 AM
FenrisDamn.
The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC
The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. June 26, 2017, 09:34 AM
slosigNot happy that it wasn't resolved "the right way," I guess I just have to be happy that it wasn't resolved the wrong way...
June 26, 2017, 09:41 AM
downtownvNeed one or two SCOTUS Changes, God willing.
June 26, 2017, 10:10 AM
JALLENYou can read Justice Thomas's view starting on page 30 of the link above.
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown June 26, 2017, 10:20 AM
Palm
June 26, 2017, 10:26 AM
AeteoclesSigh.
June 26, 2017, 10:30 AM
Pipe SmokerDamn.
Serious about crackers June 26, 2017, 10:32 AM
TigerDorequote:
Originally posted by downtownv:
Need one or two SCOTUS Changes, God willing.
Based on this, we need at least 3. Pathetic.
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June 26, 2017, 10:32 AM
sjtillWhat Pipe Smoker said.
I note that the Originalist Twins, Thomas and Gorsuch, were on the "right" side.
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June 26, 2017, 10:59 AM
S600MBUSAIt only requires 4 justices to agree to grant certiorari (hear a case), all done behind closed doors. You never know which one voted which way unless a justice or justices publish a dissent or concurrence.
In this case we know at least Thomas and Gorsuch voted for cert. I'd guess Alito did as well, but that's obviously speculation. Not being able to get a 4th cert vote from Roberts or Kennedy is interesting (and disappointing).
Looking forward to reading this dissent by my favorite living member of The Supremes.
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Their system of ethics, which regards treachery and violence as virtues rather than vices, has produced a code of honour so strange and inconsistent, that it is incomprehensible to a logical mind.
-Winston Churchill, writing of the Pashtun
June 26, 2017, 11:10 AM
nhtagmemberonce again I think that we've been let down by Roberts
I was hoping this would have gone all the way
a sad day for the citizens of California
apparently they're nothing more than subjects of the State
[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC
June 26, 2017, 02:05 PM
medic451I cant believe we couldnt even get 4 justices on board. This is such bullshit, the gun owners of CA have worked so hard for this, and once again we got the rug pulled out from under us.
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them."
- John Wayne in "The Shootist" June 26, 2017, 02:10 PM
nhtagmemberI thought that once Gorsuch came on board, this would have been a slam dunk for the citizens
very disappointed
[B] Against ALL enemies, foreign and DOMESTIC
June 26, 2017, 02:28 PM
ChicagoSigManquote:
Originally posted by S600MBUSA:
It only requires 4 justices to agree to grant certiorari (hear a case), all done behind closed doors. You never know which one voted which way unless a justice or justices publish a dissent or concurrence.
In this case we know at least Thomas and Gorsuch voted for cert. I'd guess Alito did as well, but that's obviously speculation. Not being able to get a 4th cert vote from Roberts or Kennedy is interesting (and disappointing).
Looking forward to reading this dissent by my favorite living member of The Supremes.
It's a better bet that they had 4 votes for cert (Thomas, Gorsuch, Alito and Roberts) but not 5 votes to reverse the 9th Cir. Kennedy probably indicated he wouldn't vote to overturn, so rather than take the case and set a SCOTUS precedent against the 2nd Amendment, they preferred to let the appellate court ruling stand until such time as they have the votes to overturn it. Thanks, Justice Kennedy. Screwed us again. At least, that's how I would wager it went down.
June 26, 2017, 03:52 PM
Pipe SmokerOne bright spot: Gorsuch is proving to be the kind of guy that we hoped for. Not another David Souter.
Serious about crackers June 26, 2017, 04:05 PM
Fenrisquote:
Originally posted by Pipe Smoker:
One bright spot: Gorsuch is proving to be the kind of guy that we hoped for. Not another David Souter.
Maybe Souter will retire to some leftist paradise (like Venezuela) with Ginsburg.
The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People again must learn to work, instead of living on public assistance. ~ Cicero 55 BC
The Dhimocrats love America like ticks love a hound. June 26, 2017, 04:21 PM
JALLENquote:
Originally posted by ChicagoSigMan:
quote:
Originally posted by S600MBUSA:
It only requires 4 justices to agree to grant certiorari (hear a case), all done behind closed doors. You never know which one voted which way unless a justice or justices publish a dissent or concurrence.
In this case we know at least Thomas and Gorsuch voted for cert. I'd guess Alito did as well, but that's obviously speculation. Not being able to get a 4th cert vote from Roberts or Kennedy is interesting (and disappointing).
Looking forward to reading this dissent by my favorite living member of The Supremes.
It's a better bet that they had 4 votes for cert (Thomas, Gorsuch, Alito and Roberts) but not 5 votes to reverse the 9th Cir. Kennedy probably indicated he wouldn't vote to overturn, so rather than take the case and set a SCOTUS precedent against the 2nd Amendment, they preferred to let the appellate court ruling stand until such time as they have the votes to overturn it. Thanks, Justice Kennedy. Screwed us again. At least, that's how I would wager it went down.
So you think each case is decided before it is briefed and argued, based solely on the petitions for certiorari?
Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.
When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson
"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown June 26, 2017, 04:56 PM
Spokane228I'm out of the loop since leaving California, and the Calguns site is a mess. What 2nd amendment cases do we have moving forward?