5 weeks into my first Division, graduate in 3.5 week. Updated OP.

September 05, 2025, 08:26 PM

RogueJSK

quote:
Originally posted by StorminNormin:
Monday I start school with the FBI for becoming a hostage negotiator. Not by my choice, but should be good training.

Good times. Hope you like talking.

A good friend of mine was a hostage negotiator as a secondary duty for most of his LE career. And man, that guy loves to talk. One of those guys who never met a stranger, and will talk to anyone about anything for as long as they'll let him.

The running joke was that he must just talk the bad guys into submission, rambling and yammering until they finally run out of the building shouting "I give up, lock me up, just make him shut up!"

September 05, 2025, 08:35 PM

OttoSig

quote:
Originally posted by StorminNormin:
Monday I start school with the FBI for becoming a hostage negotiator. Not by my choice, but should be good training.

I’ve worked a lot with our partner agencies. Some are the best dudes I ever met. Some are like banging my head against a wall. But never forget, you could be working with the CIA!

September 05, 2025, 08:39 PM

OttoSig

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by StorminNormin:
Monday I start school with the FBI for becoming a hostage negotiator. Not by my choice, but should be good training.

Good times. Hope you like talking.

A good friend of mine was a hostage negotiator as a secondary duty for most of his LE career. And man, that guy loves to talk. One of those guys who never met a stranger, and will talk to anyone about anything for as long as they'll let him.

The running joke was that he must just talk the bad guys into submission, rambling and yammering until they finally run out of the building shouting "I give up, lock me up, just make him shut up!"

I can’t speak to this because mine is from an intelligence standpoint, so this isn’t apples or gorillas. But Rogue is a consummate professional on his experience.

I have to defer.

September 05, 2025, 08:40 PM

StorminNormin

quote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
quote:
Originally posted by StorminNormin:
Monday I start school with the FBI for becoming a hostage negotiator. Not by my choice, but should be good training.

Good times. Hope you like talking.

A good friend of mine was a hostage negotiator as a secondary duty for most of his LE career. And man, that guy loves to talk. One of those guys who never met a stranger, and will talk to anyone about anything for as long as they'll let him.

The running joke was that he must just talk the bad guys into submission, rambling and yammering until they finally run out of the building shouting "I give up, lock me up, just make him shut up!"

That is hilarious. No I don’t like talking, but my nickname at work is “Father Battles” as I am very good at getting confessions from people even with little evidence. I get confessions from people who have denied and lied to other investigators. I enjoy interviews and interrogation and consider it an art and science, which I have been doing for over 30 years. I teach interviewing and interrogation to our agency and other police departments. This is why they wanted me to do this. I see it as being just another tool in the toolbox for everyday life, a crisis situation, or interrogation.

I remember once sitting in with an investigator that talked like crazy and the suspect literally said that if he would just stop talking he would confess. I laughed like crazy about that and always gave him hell that he literally talked the guy to death.

September 05, 2025, 09:03 PM

SpinZone

I am, understandably, very interested in your updates to see the changes that have occurred over the years. I know some of the changes from my son's experience at boot camp in 2007.

Funny story, When my son went to boot camp, I tried talking him into wearing one of my old RDC Staff shirts when he arrived. He declined, which was another example of how he has always been way smarter then me.

September 05, 2025, 09:25 PM

mkueffer

quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
I’d love to take a big Wisconsin deer but it certainly is not in the cards this year. If I can network, maybe next year.

Keep driving around you’ll hit one.

September 05, 2025, 11:00 PM

bcereuss

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Originally posted by mkueffer:
quote:
Originally posted by OttoSig:
I’d love to take a big Wisconsin deer but it certainly is not in the cards this year. If I can network, maybe next year.

Keep driving around you’ll hit one.

I can vouch for that.

September 06, 2025, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by OttoSig:
quote:
Originally posted by Patriot:
Yup, Great Lakes in 1983.

Company 182. Divisions were made up of 2-6 companies.

There were 6 Companies per building, two on each floor, three floors. But not all building were filled out.

So to provide some context. The buildings now are called ships. I went to boot camp in the Hopper. Named after Grace Hopper. Admin and indoc is in the Iowa.

There are others of course. So now it plays into Navy shipboard order with divisions I suppose.

Hopper! That was home in late 2000.

September 06, 2025, 06:07 PM

TMats

Sounds like a great opportunity for you, and recognition by the Navy of an NCO who’s had an outstanding career. Best.

September 06, 2025, 08:42 PM

1flynDO

Otto i am.

September 07, 2025, 07:08 AM

buddy357

I went to boot camp in San Diego in October 1992. Company 004. So it changed sometime after that. But then again San Diego boot camp has been gone at least a couple decades. We had the USS Recruit to learn some basic ship terms, line handling, and damage control. And I think I remember the phone center being inside the hull for the rare calls home. Last time I was out there was about 2010 and the USS Recruit was still there, but the rest of that area has been turned into housing. ASW base was still there though, that’s where I went to A school.

September 07, 2025, 07:22 AM

bcereuss

FLEASWTRACENPAC?

September 07, 2025, 08:50 AM

buddy357

quote:
Originally posted by bcereuss:
FLEASWTRACENPAC?

Yes. I was an STG, in from 1992-2015. Been there a few times over the years. They have a new name that I don’t remember and chain of command, but it’s still there. The STG fb page mentioned recently that they are going to tear down the pedestrian bridge over to the lot where most students parked and not replace it.

September 12, 2025, 04:23 PM

OttoSig

Update in OP.

September 12, 2025, 08:53 PM

SpinZone

I've said it more then once, wearing the red rope was the best job I ever had in the Navy. While it might seem overwhelming at first, you will learn to partition your mind and focus on a lot of different things at the same time.

RDC school is designed to make you feel overwhelmed at first. You will be put into no-win situations that will frustrate you, but will prepare you for the unspoken reality that every recruit is a unique challenge and they cannot prepare you for every situation you will find yourself in.

Learn everything you can from the RDC school staff. They have been there and done that. Just remember that what you learn are just tools to put in your tool box. Your success will be from learning which tool to pull out to use in which situation. It is in their best interest to pass you no matter what they tell you.

You've got this. You do have a lot to learn, but you have been around long enough to understand that the principles of leadership are universal. What you liked about the good leaders you have worked for, and what you hated about bad leaders you have worked for, all should apply to how you train recruits.

September 12, 2025, 09:09 PM

OttoSig

quote:
Originally posted by SpinZone:
I've said it more then once, wearing the red rope was the best job I ever had in the Navy. While it might seem overwhelming at first, you will learn to partition your mind and focus on a lot of different things at the same time.

RDC school is designed to make you feel overwhelmed at first. You will be put into no-win situations that will frustrate you, but will prepare you for the unspoken reality that every recruit is a unique challenge and they cannot prepare you for every situation you will find yourself in.

Learn everything you can from the RDC school staff. They have been there and done that. Just remember that what you learn are just tools to put in your tool box. Your success will be from learning which tool to pull out to use in which situation. It is in their best interest to pass you no matter what they tell you.

You've got this. You do have a lot to learn, but you have been around long enough to understand that the principles of leadership are universal. What you liked about the good leaders you have worked for, and what you hated about bad leaders you have worked for, all should apply to how you train recruits.

Always appreciate your experience SpinZone, DLI was like standing under a waterfall. This is similar, but just in RDC language instead of Korean. I’m one of the few people smiling everyday. Ain’t nothing about those defeating, it’s just a challenge that I intend to face.

You’re right, everything here, just like actual boot camp, has a purpose and motive. 0330 mornings, 14 hour days, schedule changes 6 times a day. I see the writing between the lines.

I’m gonna be the best I can at it. I’ll have some failures along the way but overall I’ll do well.