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Do cell phones have motion detectors?
October 11, 2022, 07:58 AM
PHPaulDo cell phones have motion detectors?
I'm aware of the "location" function, but I keep it turned off unless I'm using GPS for something.
The reason I ask is that I have a weather app that pops up notifications. I've noticed that the updates seem to occur when I pick up the phone and walk off with it. If it sits on my computer desk all day (which happens more often than not) I get zero alerts. As soon as I pick it up and walk off with it at any random time of the day, an update will pop up within a minute or two.
Could be just coincidence, but strikes me as a bit odd.
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October 11, 2022, 08:00 AM
fiber opticMany modern phones have accelerometers which can sense when the phone moves.
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October 11, 2022, 08:27 AM
OKCGeneThey even count the number of your steps daily as well as the total time spent doing so. It even measures and shows your Step Length, and more.
Some kinda weird black magic.
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October 11, 2022, 08:31 AM
ensigmaticDepends upon the phone. My iPhone has several accelerometers in it.
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RogueJSKYep. Your smartphone contains a three-axis accelerometer. It's what lets your smartphone do stuff like:
-Automatically switch from portrait to landscape when you turn it on its side (and back)
-Act as a bubble level
-Act as a pedometer
-Play various games by tilting the screen left/right/up/down
Etc.
And yes, they're also used so the phone knows when it has been picked up or manipulated.
That's separate from the location/GPS stuff.
October 11, 2022, 08:57 AM
dbgeekWhether or not you turn off 'location', the phone is constantly tracking you and selling the data to brokers, who in turn sell it to retailers and others. The data knows where you live (device spends the night), work, shop, etc... They know how long you spend in each area of a store, the home income level, demographic, and more.
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October 11, 2022, 09:45 AM
Dwill104Yes, they have accelerometers, but if you are getting weather alerts, those are coming for a location based system, not just movement. If you’re getting weather alerts, you either don’t have GPS turned off, or else the alerts are coming based on your location from the cell towers. Cell towers can track your location, not as accurately as GPS, but close enough for area alerts like weather service warnings.
October 11, 2022, 10:10 AM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by Dwill104:
if you are getting weather alerts, those are coming for a location based system, not just movement. If you’re getting weather alerts, you either don’t have GPS turned off, or else the alerts are coming based on your location from the cell towers.
Weather apps let you program in a location (city or zip code), and receive current weather, forecasts, and alerts based on that static programmed location.
It doesn't necessarily have to be using cell/GPS location systems to know your current
actual location.
The situation the OP is asking about here is that the phone is triggering notification when the accelerometer recognizes that the phone is being carried/manipulated and is now "in use", versus laying motionless on a table for hours.
October 11, 2022, 10:12 AM
SIGnifiedWeather apps are notorious for selling location data. It’s one of the most accurate measures available on the Internet for this purpose. Use at your own risk.
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PHPaulquote:
Originally posted by RogueJSK:
Weather apps let you program in a location, and receive current weather, forecasts, and alerts based on that static programmed location.
It doesn't necessarily have to be using cell/GPS location systems to know your current actual location.
The situation the OP is asking about here is that the phone is triggering notification when the accelerometer recognizes that the phone is now "in use", versus laying motionless on a table for hours.
Precisely. I have a weather app set for "Gouldsboro" which is the 100-ish square mile area I live in.
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October 11, 2022, 10:15 AM
architectAnd don't forge the cameras, they can certainly be used to detect motion of the phone itself, and anyone/anything in the vicinity.
October 11, 2022, 10:47 AM
PykerMy iphone 12 has a 'require attention' feature that detects when I am looking at the phone and lights it up. It also has a 'raise to wake' setting which alerts the phone when I pick it up.
Both can be switched off in settings if it's making your tinfoil hat too tight.
October 11, 2022, 11:11 AM
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October 11, 2022, 11:58 PM
airbubbaandroid, settings, motions/gestures, i select lift to wake.
October 12, 2022, 07:47 AM
gjgalliganquote:
Originally posted by airbubba:
android, settings, motions/gestures, i select lift to wake.
Thank you!
I have had this phone for 2 years and did not it had this feature.
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October 12, 2022, 08:48 AM
RogueJSKquote:
Originally posted by airbubba:
android, settings, motions/gestures, i select lift to wake.
Note: On my Androids, it's Settings >
Advanced Features > Motions and Gestures