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The Saudis deny the plane was hit. You be the judge.
That looks like a hit to me. Also last Sunday, the Yemeni Islamofascists claim they shot down a Saudi Tornado (the Saudis say it crashed due to "technical difficulties"). Link  Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | ||
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I guess that two flares were released, and there was a hit but the plane was able to continue flying. -c1steve | |||
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Flares or decoys. I agree it looks like a hit. I guess English to Islamofascists looks the same as Arabic looks to us. I expect the Saudis to retaliate heavily. | |||
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The Unmanned Writer |
If you have experience with how and who maintains the Saudi air force, you might agree with them and their statement.  Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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| Ammoholic |
Not 100% sure what I was seeing. Perhaps he went into burner for a bit, dropped a couple flares and was hit but managed to keep flying (for a little while?). It seems odd that he’d drop flares, stay in burner, and not appear to take any evasive action. I’m not a fighter pilot though, and I have no clue. Perhaps RHINOWSO will be along with some relevant insights. | |||
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saw that too. IMO - the pilot should have performed a hard turn to port and back on the stick (to place his counter-measures between him and the missile, and popping off chaff and flares at a high rate (not just TWO flares). Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it. "If dogs don't go to Heaven, I want to go where they go" Will Rogers The definition of the words we used, carry a meaning of their own... | |||
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I think he released a 3rd flare and that is what the missile hit (we just couldn't see it due to masked by heat sig. of the burners). Why he didn't break hard is beyond me, I just hump a rucksack.  “People have to really suffer before they can risk doing what they love.” –Chuck Palahnuik Be harder to kill: https://preparefit.ck.page | |||
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I'll use the Red Key |
I would have expected some sort of evasive maneuvers about the time the afterburners were lit and the flares were deployed - not just keep going straight. Pretty big heat signature, if that was a heat seeking missile. Regardless the pilot got a lucky break. Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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A Grateful American |
Back in the day, "we" maintained the Saudi's jets. All have AN/ALE-45 Auto Counter Measures system and deploy chaff and flares. They can be adjusted to several dispersal rates. Bypass, Full Auto, Semi-auto or manual. Sort of "Pew", "Pew Pew Pew" etc. It looks like he was pulling then rolled and then banged burner and then released two flares, and then the missile may have gone off with proximity. If it were a missile impact, there would have been a shit ton of debris and the video would have blossomed big-time. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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No idea what kind of threat it was facing, but he didn't seem to be doing much to aggressively defeat it. Then again, he may not have see the weapon that was shot at him. The Saudis aren't known to be the best aviators / tacticians, but it easy to criticize when we don't have much of the story. The plane didn't appear to suffer catastrophic damage and the F-15 is known for redundant systems - / survivability - just look at the Israeli F-15 that landing minus 3/4s of a wing. | |||
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Read that it was a radar guided missle and he was dumping flares. That’s the wrong button there Mustafa.... you needed chaff. "da evil Count Glockula."-Para | |||
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That's what I thought. It looked like the missile disintegrated just before the plane. You would think if it hit the plane it would at least impart some roll to the aircraft no? | |||
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Absolutly ANYBODY fighting against Saudi Arabia you can nearly bet that the Iranians are backing with weapons, knowhow, and money. The Iranians are getting their weapons from Russia, and their surfact to air missles are 1st class. From the limited video we have here, it looks like a hit, but the a/c remains airworthy. For now, anyway. | |||
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| A Grateful American |
No. Proximity fuses cause the missile to detonate within a very close range of the aircraft, (anywhere from 25-400 feet depending on missile type) and have a shaped charge that explodes in a radial fashion and is much like a shotgun blast. If the missile would have impacted the aircraft, the video would have "bloomed" and it would be unmistakable. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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| Help! Help! I'm being repressed!  |
The only thing that came to my mind while watching that is, "Why is Alexa Vader talking Arabic into that microphone?" | |||
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| Doing what I want, When I want, If I want!  |
So did anyone notice the equipment used to track the plane was FLIR? Now how did that end up in the hands of Islamofascists? ******************************************** "On the other side of fear you will always find freedom" | |||
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| A Grateful American |
FLIR Systems is located here in the Florida panhandle, and a lot of their products are available on-line. "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Like all other things, captured and repurposed. Houthi Rebels Release FLIR Video Showing Shoot Down of Saudi F-15S Over Yemen (Updated)
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Valid, but not entirely cut and dry. Many systems dispense a combination of flares and chaff since, in the moment of action, it’s possible to misdiagnose the threat. Meaning, if your RWR gear lights up simultaneous with your MWS, which is it? In the time it takes to think through that possibility and decide RWR you’re already hit. Ergo, systems that have flare & chaff can be set to shoot them concurrently. And if his was shooting chaff between those flares, would you even see it in IR? I think no. | |||
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| Banned |
Since Saudi Wahabbis are also Islamofascists, why should anyone care how they kill each other? | |||
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