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From her office to the server in the cellar to her smart phone was entirely unsecured and of course Hillary and her staff knew it to be. Despite the fact that they knew, they did it anyway because Hillary is paranoid, especially about her privacy.

Paranoid about HER privacy, apparently not so paranoid about OUR privacy.

The stripping of the classification headers should be a felony as well. The originating agency is the ONLY group that has the ability to decide the level of classification.

There should be plenty of pain to be shared here IF Lo-retta will simply move on it. Of course, she will do whatever her boss tells her to do in spite of the laws and damages caused.

RMD

An example of why the Republicans are so disappointing:

http://www.washingtonexaminer....nton/article/2581094

Hillary Clinton should be indicted for mishandling classified information on a private system, according to Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn, although he doubts the Obama administration will take that step.

"The Attorney General is a political appointee, serves at the pleasure of the president," the Texas Republican, a former state attorney general, told conservative talk radio host Hugh Hewitt. "I find it hard to believe that she would indict Secretary Clinton during this time. But it's clear the FBI views this as a very, very serious matter as they should."

Cornyn asked Attorney General Loretta Lynch to appoint a special counsel to investigate Clinton months ago, after the inspector general for the Intelligence Committee found classified information on Clinton's private server and referred the case to the Justice Department.

Intentional mishandling of classified information is a crime, under federal law. Cornyn said that "if it were you or me," Clinton's behavior would draw a prosecution. "But as you know, the Clintons have always seemed to get by with not having the rules apply to them," he told Hewitt.

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Instead of conceding defeat, the Rep Senate and House should be demanding action.

The Rep establishment complete lack of balls is why Trump and Cruz are front runners.

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The stripping of the classification headers should be a felony as well. The originating agency is the ONLY group that has the ability to decide the level of classification.

Dependent upon classifications of the documents which had the headings and identifiers stripped away, it is a felony.

You are not allowed to take notes about information contained in these documents much less retype them.

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Originally posted by sdy:

Intentional mishandling of classified information is a crime, under federal law. Cornyn said that "if it were you or me," Clinton's behavior would draw a prosecution. "But as you know, the Clintons have always seemed to get by with not having the rules apply to them," he told Hewitt.

Isn't unintentional mishandling of classified information a crime as well?

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Instead of conceding defeat, the Rep Senate and House should be demanding action.

We are of course leaping to judgment here because the FBI has not yet finished their investigation.
The evidence seems clear but its not complete yet.

Congress has little recourse but to wait until the investigation is complete.

The Candidates; Bernie Sanders, Trump, Cruz, and the rest should be hammering this at every opportunity. Trump & Sanders would get air time.

Sanders wants to win----here is his big chance, especially as regards Hillary's connections to the Clinton Funds and the financial involvement of people with business before the State Department.

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Isn't unintentional mishandling of classified information a crime as well?

Probably, yes. but there would be some wiggle room for leniency dependent upon the details.

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Originally posted by oldRoger:

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Instead of conceding defeat, the Rep Senate and House should be demanding action.

The Candidates; Bernie Sanders, Trump, Cruz, and the rest should be hammering this at every opportunity. Trump & Sanders would get air time.

Sanders wants to win----here is his big chance, especially as regards Hillary's connections to the Clinton Funds and the financial involvement of people with business before the State Department.

Sanders already passed on the email scandal.

"We're sick and tired of hearing about you damn emails!"

Remember that? What an idiot...

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Originally posted by oldRoger:

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Isn't unintentional mishandling of classified information a crime as well?

Probably, yes. but there would be some wiggle room for leniency dependent upon the details.

There should be very little wiggle room. I had to attend sessions regularly while I was in the Navy with an SCI/TS clearance, and they made no bones about it. Even with an innocent and unintentional mistake, you are likely facing serious consequences! We had to be so careful handling classified material. They always said that if there is any doubt about what you're doing, then stop and ask a supervisor for clarification, all the way up to the dept. head if necessary.
I dealt with classified material similar to the SAP material being discussed, and we had to be so careful. 2 person control, physical control at all times, no notes, no copying, no talking about except in the SCIF and no one present that isn't cleared. 2 persons must witness the destructions, etc.

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We are of course leaping to judgment here

really ?

Wiggle room? The secretary of State should lead by example. If we don't hold the highest officials of this country accountable who should be held accountable?

Did any one or any nation hack the personal servers? Isn't this the second most relevant question?

The Smoking Gun?


Special Access Programs (SAP) is a game changer. It is now undeniably clear that the results of the FBI investigation will be the end of one of two things: Hillary’s bid for the White House or the legitimacy of the FBI—at least when it comes to prosecuting cases on the mishandling of classified material.

In 2006, a Special Forces Operational Detachment Alpha (ODA) from my company was deployed to Afghanistan. Theirs was a particular mission that differed from the combat missions the typical ODAs were conducting at that time. Everyone on that team maintained a Top Secret Sensitive and Compartmented Information (TS/SCI) clearance and was “read-on” to their special program. A few months into their deployment, their Intelligence Sergeant lost a thumb-drive that possessed classified information. A week later the thumb drive was found for sale at a local bazaar.

In response to the events, Col. Ken Allard (ret.) stated, “You've got a situation in which the U.S. is going to be forced to change an awful lot of its operational techniques."
Beyond the compromise of classified information, a lot did change. New protocols for the handling of classified material were established, and the transportation of classified material on thumb drives was strictly forbidden. The knee jerk reaction even went as far as to disable USB ports on our work computers—in case we forgot.

Since then I’ve deployed to several locations where, at times, we operated in small teams with only non-secure cellphones with which to communicate. We often found ourselves with a lot of information that needed to be sent up in reports, but due to the nature of our mission we were forced to sit on it for a few days until we were able to type it up and send it through a secure medium. I’d be lying if I said we didn’t concoct elaborate plans with “foolproof” ways to communicate the information over non-secure channels, but in the end, no one was willing to take the risk of our “fail-safes” failing.

As more information from Hillary Clinton’s server has been made available, it is clear that the contents of the server contained Imagery Intelligence (IMINT), Human Intelligence (HUMINT), and Signal Intelligence (SIGINT). Understanding that much of the information has been retroactively classified, there are a few facts that are tough to grasp—at least from the perspective of an intelligence practitioner.

First, when imagery that is classified SECRET//NOFORN (no foreign national) is viewed, regardless of the absence of classification markings, it is distinctly evident. Second, any documents that contain or reference HUMINT is always classified SECRET, and if specific names of sources or handlers are mentioned, they are at a minimum SECRET//NOFORN. Third, SIGINT is always classified at the TS level. It’s not uncommon for some SI to be downgraded and shared over SECRET mediums, however, it is highly unlikely that a Secretary of State would receive downgraded intelligence. Finally, SAP intelligence has been discovered on Clinton’s private server, and many are now calling this the smoking gun. SAP is a specialized management system of additional security controls designed to protect SAR or Special Access Required. SAR has to do with extremely perishable operational methods and capabilities, and only selected individuals who are “read on” or “indoctrinated” are permitted access to these programs. The mishandling of SAP can cause catastrophic damage to current collection methods, techniques and personnel.

In other words, if you have worked with classified material for more than a day, it seems highly implausible that someone could receive any of the aforementioned over an un-secure medium without alarm bells sounding. However, reading about a Special Access Program on an unclassified device would make anyone even remotely familiar with intelligence mess their pantsuit.

With more damming information being released almost weekly now, it’s interesting that during last Sunday’s Democratic debate, Clinton resoundingly stated: “No one is too big for jail.” Although the context was referencing bank CEOs and Hedge fund managers, the obvious correlation left many scratching their heads and wondering—did Hillary Clinton just say, “I dare you” to the FBI?”


http://thehill.com/blogs/congr...6477-the-smoking-gun

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In other words, if you have worked with classified material for more than a day, it seems highly implausible that someone could receive any of the aforementioned over an un-secure medium without alarm bells sounding. However, reading about a Special Access Program on an unclassified device would make anyone even remotely familiar with intelligence mess their pantsuit.

The word I've been screaming at the TV since we learned she had satellite imagery on her private email server...

SPILLAGE. Losing control of classified material is the only method of being imprisoned that is faster than messing with government money.

We all know and pretty much agree that she is guilty as sin.

The only question remaining is whom will take the fall for her transgressions? Hilary or the FBI?

The answer to this question will tell all of us what to expect over the next year and how much ammunition to stockpile.


RMD

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Originally posted by oldRoger:

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Instead of conceding defeat, the Rep Senate and House should be demanding action.

The Candidates; Bernie Sanders, Trump, Cruz, and the rest should be hammering this at every opportunity. Trump & Sanders would get air time.

Sanders wants to win----here is his big chance, especially as regards Hillary's connections to the Clinton Funds and the financial involvement of people with business before the State Department.

Sanders already passed on the email scandal.

"We're sick and tired of hearing about you damn emails!"

Remember that? What an idiot...

So I wonder what he really got in trade for that pass?

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We are of course leaping to judgment here because the FBI has not yet finished their investigation.

Ongoing investigation. Where have we heard that before? And how often?

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So I wonder what he really got in trade for that pass?

I think Bernie is a simple soul, he probably doesn't give a damn about National Security and wanted to get on with the debate about socialist stuff important to him.
He does care about Hillary's ties to the banks and other major contributors to the Clinton Funds. He has called her out on that and made points with the press and progressives.
The FBI is now looking into the corruption angles hinted at in some of the unclassified emails. Bernie should be interested in that aspect.

I think Hillary is guilty of very serious crimes involving mishandling of classified information but I have no proof and proof is needed for convictions. I think she and the Clinton Gang are also guilty of taking money from persons and governments with interests before the State Department while she was its head another very serious crime(s). I know that various people like Judicial Watch had FOIA requests in for the emails concerning a host of other shady operations involving Hillary.

I too had a what was referred to at the time as a Top Secret, Code Word clearance and understand what was required at that time. But that was a long time ago in the Military before the advent of the internet. I don't know the current rules for civilian agencies such as State in the era of Smart Phones in every handbag.

I don't know and neither does anyone else here what actual evidence the FBI has about who removed headings and identifiers from classified documents. I suspect it was Hillary's close associates, and I suspect Hillary told them to do so based upon the one document leaked.
I don't know this though and I have no proof of anything.

I don't know what evidence the FBI has about the various persons involved in the setting up and management of her unsecure network, how much did they know and when did they know it.

Obviously I don't know the actual information which was in the emails so I cannot confirm the level of classification, anyway my clearance lapsed long ago. It does seem that the classifying entities have confirmed the level of classification but of course not how it came to be on Clinton's server.

This is what the FBI is all about, Since they now have all of the hardware and have subpoena power they can put nails in Hillary's coffin.

Political candidates however don't have to wait, they can attack based upon what has been published.

Now the Washington Post has piled on....

https://www.washingtonpost.com...4c3645405_story.html

Who had the worst week in Washington? Hillary Clinton.

For Hillary Clinton, it’s starting to look like deja vu all over again.

Start a bid for the Democratic presidential nomination as giant front-runner. Check. Raise tens of millions of dollars and look unbeatable for large swaths of the year before the primaries start. Check. An insurgent challenger running to her ideological left? Check. Collapsing poll numbers on the eve of actual votes? Check.

Over the past week or so, Clinton has watched as her national polling lead over Sen. Bernie Sanders (Vt.), a self-avowed socialist, has shrunk. And, far more important, Clinton’s standing vis a vis Sanders in the key early-voting states of Iowa and New Hampshire has eroded as well.

In Iowa, after holding a high-single-digit lead (at worst) for months, Clinton now finds herself in a dead heat with the caucuses just over a week away. The Real Clear Politics polling average gives Clinton an edge of less than five points.

Sanders has always run stronger in New Hampshire than in Iowa, but of late several polls suggest that he is widening his steady lead over the former secretary of state. In the Real Clear Politics polling average, Sanders is up by almost 13 points.

Lose both of those states early next month, and Clinton’s inevitability bubble bursts. Period.

Clinton, to her credit, is doing everything she can to avoid a repeat of 2008. She’s savaging Sanders as both too conservative (on guns) and too pie-in-the-sky liberal (on health care).

Complicating those efforts is the news that broke midweek: The intelligence community’s inspector general confirmed that dozens of emails on the private server Clinton used while she was at the State Department contained extremely highly classified information.

Clinton continues to stick by her original line on the email controversy — that she never sent or received anything that was classified at the time — but the latest news is proof that the story and its reverberations are likely to dog her all the way through November.

Hillary Clinton, for watching history repeat itself, you had the worst week in Washington. Congrats, or something.

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So I wonder what he really got in trade for that pass?

I think Bernie is a simple soul, he probably doesn't give a damn about National Security and wanted to get on with the debate about socialist stuff important to him.
He does care about Hillary's ties to the banks and other major contributors to the Clinton Funds. He has called her out on that and made points with the press and progressives.
The FBI is now looking into the corruption angles hinted at in some of the unclassified emails. Bernie should be interested in that aspect.

Personally, I think he did it to gain goodwill with the DNC. The DNC doesn't want him as candidate any more than RNC wants Cruz. However, they may end up needing each other, and by Sanders trivializing this, it shows he plays well with others.

http://dailycaller.com/2016/01...llarys-server-video/

Former Secretary of Defense Robert Gates says, “I think the odds are pretty high” countries like Iran, China, and Russia hacked Hillary Clinton’s email server.

Hewitt asked Gates, “[A]re you surprised by the news that continues to come out about the former Secretary of State’s server and the fact that the intelligence community’s inspector general has said there was a lot of very highly classified information on her server?”

“Yeah, that’s a concern for me,” Gates said. “I never used email when I was head of CIA or head of the Department of Defense.

I preferred dealing with people face to face and putting a signature on a piece of paper on matters of real national security and importance.”

Hewitt followed up, “One of your colleagues, Mike Morell [Former Deputy Director of the CIA], said on this program, or actually agreed with my assertion that almost certainly, Russians, Chinese and Iranians had compromised the home brew server of the former Secretary of State. He agreed with that. Do you agree with his assessment of my assessment?”

“Well, given the fact that the Pentagon acknowledges that they get attacked about 100,000 times a day, I think the odds are pretty high,” Gates insisted.