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Hillary has benefited greatly from the terrorists attacks and Trump dominating the news cycles.
This story isn't even on the back burner any longer.


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She may be off the radar for a while, but in terms of her goal, the events recently transpired, and the subsequent reaction by the Obama administration serve only to lessen her chances of being elected, come what may.

It all balances.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
She may be off the radar for a while, but in terms of her goal, the events recently transpired, and the subsequent reaction by the Obama administration serve only to lessen her chances of being elected, come what may.

It all balances.

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Agreed. The recent terrorists attacks, and those to come in the near future, do not help Hillary's election chances. She contributed to the rise of ISIS while SOS. There will be plenty to connect her with HUSSEIN's impotent foreign policies.



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The email from Jeremy Bash is amazing.

Our "government" has been investigating Benghazi for 3 years.

It takes a private organization to get an email released that was sent to the State Dept by Sec Defense o nthe day of the attack, indeed during the multihour attack.

And the email contradicts what every high level official said : that no help was available
 
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So there is now a paper trail saying a rescue mission was ready to go but never got the nod from above. How interesting. IIRC, both Ham and the other guy were dismissed too....


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Originally posted by sdy:

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From: Bash, Jeremy CIV SD [REDACTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:19 PM
To: Sullivan, Jacob J; Sherman, Wendy R; Nides, Thomas R
Cc: Miller, James HON OSD POLICY; Wienefeld, James A ADM JSC VCJCS; Kelly, John LtGen SD; martin, dempsey [REDACTED]
Subject: Libya

State colleagues:

I just tried you on the phone but you were all in with S [apparent reference to then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton].

After consulting with General Dempsey, General Ham and the Joint Staff, we have identified the forces that could move to Benghazi. They are spinning up as we speak. They include a [REDACTED].

Assuming Principals agree to deploy these elements, we will ask State to procure the approval from host nation. Please advise how you wish to convey that approval to us [REDACTED].

Jeremy






Note to all: Bash ain't just another name on another obscure email.

At the time he sent that message, he was CHIEF OF STAFF for the Secretary of Defense.

It is more evidence the Obama Administration engages in systematic disinformation and outright lies to further its agenda. But we here all know that and the other 99.9992% of the citizenry doesn't care.





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And that email and subsequent non-action raises the question for me once again; was there something going on that our leaders did not want anyone else to learn about?
 
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The following may seem a small point, but it is not.

How totally incompetent these people are.

Our ambassador is under attack. Forces are ready to move.

we will ask State to procure the approval from host nation

But,

"just tried you on the phone but you were all in with S"

so he sends an email

Maybe by the time Jake Sullivan opened his email it was all over.

Talk about not being ready for the 3 am phone call. Remember that ad ?
 
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And that email and subsequent non-action raises the question for me once again; was there something going on that our leaders did not want anyone else to learn about?


Zippy was meeting Beyonce and Jay-Z. Still no clue where the fuck Hilz was. Odds are it is tied to the Clinton Foundation, Huma, or something else equally corrupt.

But that EMail is the 4AM call Hilz warned us of back in 2008. Isn't ironic that she claimed should be the one to answer the phone when Zippy won't. Too bad for the four in Libya she was only half right.


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From what I've read, it's my opinion they were running weapons to AQ.


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http://hotair.com/archives/201...lated-e-mails-again/

The State Department has told Senate investigators it cannot find backup copies of emails sent by Bryan Pagliano, the top Hillary Clinton IT staffer who maintained her email server but has asserted his Fifth Amendment right and refused to answer questions on the matter.

State officials told the Senate Judiciary Committee in a recent closed-door meeting that they could not locate what’s known as a “.pst file” for Pagliano’s work during Clinton’s tenure, which would have included copies of the tech expert’s emails, according to a letter Chairman Chuck Grassley sent to Secretary of State John Kerry that was obtained by POLITICO.

The department also told the committee the FBI has taken possession of Pagliano’s government computer system , where traces of the messages are most likely to be found, according to the letter.


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If the FBI can read the server, they will find Pagliano's emails.
 
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An intelligence community review has re-affirmed that two classified emails were indeed “top secret” when they hit Hillary Clinton’s unsecured personal server despite a challenge to that designation by the State Department, according to two sources familiar with the review.

The sources described the dispute over whether the two emails were classified at the highest level as a “settled matter.”

The agencies that owned and originated that intelligence – the CIA and National Geospatial-Intelligence Agency or NGA – reviewed the emails to determine how they should be properly stored, as the State Department took issue with their highly classified nature.

The subject matter of the messages is widely reported to be the movement of North Korean missiles and a drone strike. A top secret designation requires the highest level of security, and can include the use of an approved safe.

The sources, who were not authorized to speak on the record, told Fox News that while the emails were indeed “top secret” when they hit Clinton’s server, one of them remains “top secret” to this day -- and must be handled at the highest security level.

The second email is still considered classified but at the lower “secret” level because more information is publicly available about the event.

The findings have been transmitted to the State Department, which continues to challenge the intelligence community’s conclusions about the classification of all the emails. But the department has no authority to change the classification since it did not originate the information.

Earlier this month, Politico reported that the intelligence community was retreating from the “top secret” classification, a development that could have helped Clinton’s presidential campaign deflect allegations about mishandling classified material.

Fox News can confirm it is true the handling of one email has changed since it was drafted and sent, but this change has no bearing on the “top secret” nature of the emails when first received on Clinton’s server. And this is what matters to the FBI probe.
 
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The "Top Secret" label in a couple of emails misses the point. Point being, the SecState is one of a small number of people with the authority to classify communications. While it's pertinent to some that there were classified communications passed through by her, it is even more important to consider the content of her own communiques. She was almost certainly sending out information that SHOULD have been classified and dealt with through a secure server. HRC should have herself recognized the sensitive nature of her emails--immediately ceased communications by private server, classified the information, and communicated as necessary through a secure server. She's a disgrace--as we all knew, and the fact that she's still a viable candidate says much about the current state of the Democratic Party and its followers.


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the SecState is one of a small number of people with the authority to classify communications



Her authority was only for material that originated in the State Dept.

Very unfortunately, the State Dept classified email disaster was not getting attention until they found TS. That is when the intel agencies had to step up.

It is sad that hundreds of CONF emails didn't get the ball rolling, but this is the Obama administration.

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She was almost certainly sending out information that SHOULD have been classified and dealt with through a secure server


This has been firmly established because even the State Dept has now classified hundreds of her emails.
 
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Now it seems the Defense Department will join the State Department in this fiasco...Ash Carter used his personal Email to handle DD business...

http://www.foxnews.com/politic...on.html?intcmp=hpbt1

HilBot will probably release a statement that "see...everybody is doing it...ain't no big deal" and then cackle/laugh in the camera...

Or...maybe it will cause her Email debacle to be revived in the media (hope...hope...hope)...

We would probably freak out if we had any idea of the sensitive information that has been gleaned from this administration's nonexistent safeguards...it just gets worse...

I'm surprised the Duchy Of Grand Fenwick has not taken control of this country.


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Now it seems the Defense Department will join the State Department in this fiasco...Ash Carter used his personal Email to handle DD business...


Using personal email account for some messages is only slightly less egregious than running an off-the-books unsecured server for ALL your .gov email, but the LIV won't understand or care.





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There was chatter on here 3 years ago that is all confirmed by these Emails.. That there where admirals and Generals ready to send aid but were told to stand down.. If I remember right there was more than one commander relieved of duty that night because he wanted to help.


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Back to Hillary.

Townhall.com
Judge Andrew Napolitano
December 17, 2015

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While the country has been fixated on Donald Trump's tormenting his Republican primary opponents and deeply concerned about the government's efforts to identify any confederates in the San Bernardino, California, killings, a team of federal prosecutors and FBI agents continues to examine Hillary Clinton's tenure as secretary of state in order to determine whether she committed any crimes and, if so, whether there is sufficient evidence to prove her guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

What began as an innocent Freedom of Information Act request by Judicial Watch, a D.C.-based public advocacy group promoting transparency in the executive branch, has now become a full criminal investigation, with Clinton as the likely target.

The basic facts are well-known, but the revealed nuances are important, as well. When the State Department responded to the Judicial Watch FOIA request by telling Judicial Watch that it had no emails from Clinton, Judicial Watch filed a lawsuit. When the State Department made the same representation to the court -- as incredible as it seemed at the time -- the judge accepted that representation, and the case was dismissed.

Then The New York Times revealed that Clinton used a private email server instead of the government's server for all of her work-related and personal emails during her four years as secretary of state. After that, the Judicial Watch FOIA case was reinstated, and then the judge in the case demanded of State that it produce Clinton's emails.

When Judicial Watch expressed frustration to the judge about the pace at which it was getting emails, the judge ordered Clinton, "under penalty of perjury," to certify that she had surrendered all her governmental emails to the State Department.

Eventually, Clinton did certify to the court that she did surrender all of her governmental emails to the State Department. She did so by sending paper copies of selected emails, because she had wiped clean her server. She acknowledged that she decided which emails were personal and which were selected as governmental and returned the governmental ones to the State Department. She has denied steadfastly and consistently that she ever sent or received any materials marked "classified" while secretary of state using her private server.

All of her behavior has triggered the FBI investigation because she may have committed serious federal crimes. For example, it is a crime to steal federal property. What did she steal? By diverting to her own venue the digital metadata that accompany all emails -- metadata that, when attached to the work-related emails of a government employee, belong to the government -- she stole that data. The metadata do not appear on her paper copies -- hence the argument that she stole and destroyed the government-owned metadata.

This is particularly troublesome for her present political ambitions because of a federal statute that disqualifies from public office all who have stolen federal property. (She is probably already barred from public office -- though this was not prominently raised when she entered the U.S. Senate or the Department of State -- because of the china, silverware and furniture that she and her husband took from the White House in January 2001.)

Clinton may also have committed espionage by failing to secure the government secrets entrusted to her. She did that by diverting those secrets to an unprotected, nongovernmental venue -- her own server -- and again by emailing those secrets to other unprotected and nongovernmental venues. The reason she can deny sending or receiving anything marked "classified" is that protected government secrets are not marked "classified."

So her statement, though technically true, is highly misleading. The governmental designations of protected secrets are "confidential," "secret" and "top secret" -- not "classified." State Department investigators have found 999 emails sent or received by Clinton in at least one of those three categories of protected secrets.

Back when Clinton became secretary of state, on her first day in office, she had an hourlong FBI briefing on the proper and lawfully required care of government secrets. She signed a statement, under penalty of perjury, acknowledging that she knew the law and that it is the content of emails, not any stamped markings, that makes them secret.

Earlier this week, my Fox News colleagues confirmed the certain presence of top-secret materials among the 999 emails. Intelligence from foreign sources or about foreign governments is always top-secret, whether designated as such or not. And she knows that.

As well, she may have committed perjury in the FOIA case. When the House Select Committee on Benghazi, in its investigation of her role in the deaths of the U.S. ambassador to Libya and three other Americans, gathered emails, it found emails she did not surrender to the State Department.

Last week, the State Department released emails that give the FBI more areas to investigate. These emails may show a pattern of official behavior by Clinton designed to benefit the financial interests of her family's foundation, her husband and her son-in-law. Moreover, the FBI knows of a treasure-trove of documents that may demonstrate that the Clinton Foundation skirted the law and illegally raised and spent contributions.

Two months ago, a group of FBI agents sat around a conference table and reviewed the evidence gathered thus far. Each agent was given the opportunity to make or detract from the case for moving forward. At the end of the meeting, it was the consensus of the group to pursue a criminal investigation.

And Clinton is the likely target.


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So her statement, though technically true, is highly misleading. The governmental designations of protected secrets are "confidential," "secret" and "top secret" -- not "classified." State Department investigators have found 999 emails sent or received by Clinton in at least one of those three categories of protected secrets.

I'm surprised how much this sort of thing can be overlooked coming from the mouth of a Yale Law School grad who was a licensed attorney. For any other person with so much as a vaguely similar background, the word "lawyer" would have been used either as a pejorative or apologetically every time this nonsense was mentioned.

Now, when exactly did the words "designated" and "classified" come to have different meanings in this sort of context?
 
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