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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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Originally posted by nighthawk:
...if Huma goes to jail, I guess Carlos Danger will be texting pictures of his junk all over again.

Hell there were 35,000 emails of his junk on HRC's outhouse server.

Numb nuts has probably been doing this since his last 'outing', just has gotten smarter about who he texts.

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Originally posted by oldRoger:

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This will present another interesting challenge, how to have a fair and public trial with evidence that cannot be made public.

This is a normal problem for this type of crime, but convictions happen frequently.

I have no direct experience, but do recall news accounts of declines to prosecute or absurdly lenient plea deals from the awkwardness of having to introduce classifed info at trial. It must be tricky.

https://www.washingtonpost.com...-secretary-of-state/

Clinton’s position was supported Friday by Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, who said none of the emails in question originated with Clinton .

“It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” she said in a statement.

“The only reason to hold Secretary Clinton responsible for emails that didn’t originate with her is for political points, and that’s what we’ve seen over the past several months.”

Another Clinton ally, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, told MSNBC that Friday’s announcement suggested an effort to hurt Clinton ahead of Monday’s voting in Iowa.

“The timing of it is quite suspect,” said Vilsack, a former Iowa governor.

Steven Aftergood, who heads a project on government secrecy for the Federation of American Scientists, said he thought the attention to Clinton’s emails was overblown, partly because similar classification disputes are common across government.

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Feinstein, Vilsack, Aftergood - political hack liars and cover up participants

From HC 1 Sept 2015:

“I have said repeatedly that I did not send nor receive classified material, and I’m very confident that when this entire process plays out that will be understood by everyone,”

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://www.washingtonpost.com...-secretary-of-state/

Clinton’s position was supported Friday by Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, who said none of the emails in question originated with Clinton .

“It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” she said in a statement.

“The only reason to hold Secretary Clinton responsible for emails that didn’t originate with her is for political points, and that’s what we’ve seen over the past several months.”

Another Clinton ally, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, told MSNBC that Friday’s announcement suggested an effort to hurt Clinton ahead of Monday’s voting in Iowa.

“The timing of it is quite suspect,” said Vilsack, a former Iowa governor.

Steven Aftergood, who heads a project on government secrecy for the Federation of American Scientists, said he thought the attention to Clinton’s emails was overblown, partly because similar classification disputes are common across government.

This does not hold water. Clinton set up the private email server in violation of Obama policy and U S law. She knew or should have known that that government correspondence would include classified information.She even directed subordinates to take a heading off of classified material and send it to her anyway.

Good try though.

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Originally posted by sdy:
https://www.washingtonpost.com...-secretary-of-state/

Clinton’s position was supported Friday by Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, who said none of the emails in question originated with Clinton .

“It has never made sense to me that Secretary Clinton can be held responsible for email exchanges that originated with someone else,” she said in a statement.

“The only reason to hold Secretary Clinton responsible for emails that didn’t originate with her is for political points, and that’s what we’ve seen over the past several months.”

Another Clinton ally, Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack, told MSNBC that Friday’s announcement suggested an effort to hurt Clinton ahead of Monday’s voting in Iowa.

“The timing of it is quite suspect,” said Vilsack, a former Iowa governor.

Steven Aftergood, who heads a project on government secrecy for the Federation of American Scientists, said he thought the attention to Clinton’s emails was overblown, partly because similar classification disputes are common across government.

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Feinstein, Vilsack, Aftergood - political hack liars and cover up participants

I bet Pelosi considers it a witch hunt too. If enough people tell a lie sometimes it becomes the "truth".

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Originally posted by sdy:

Clinton’s position was supported Friday by Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California, the ranking Democrat ...

No surprise that the Wicked Witches of the West would come to the aid of the Wicked Witches of the East.

Its part of their collectivization agreement.

No problem. Just need a bigger house.

It just keeps getting more and more fresh. Josh Earnest may have stepped in it with his comments about the DOJ indicating Hillary is not the target of the investigation.
Two things are happening here. The Clinton's have put some years on and the slickness is wearing off. Secondly they are surrounded by fools who seem inept while even try to help them.

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There are two very big dangers here.

It would be entirely improper for the White House to be in communication with the Justice Department over an ongoing criminal investigation. This would constitute political interference. A congressional committee could well issue a subpoena for Earnest, which would raise the Watergate flag when executive privilege likely would be claimed.

Second, this claim is likely to infuriate the FBI and those DoJ prosecutors with integrity. The normally staid ace reporter Catherine Herridge used the expression “super pissed off” to describe it to Greta Van Susteren.

Link

Hillary's not the target of an investigation, and yet the story on the front page of today's Wall Street Journal is that the State Department is opening it's own independent investigation.

What, then, is the State Department supposed to be investigating?

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Hillary's not the target of an investigation, and yet the story on the front page of today's Wall Street Journal is that the State Department is opening it's own independent investigation.

What, then, is the State Department supposed to be investigating?

How can they open a investigation while they are with holding evidence from the FBI in emails not yet released??
This can only be to undermine the FBI's investigation and muddy the waters.
If true we are going to be witness to the complete fracture and melt down of a administration. Bring it!!

As someone said a month or so ago, the FBI does not investigate things...they investigate people.

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What, then, is the State Department supposed to be investigating?

If they are investigating, they do not have to release any information, because it is under investigation. Get it? Works in all investigations of government departments in this administration.

State Dept sucks.

This is a short video of Catherine Herridge asking a question to State Dept spokesman John Kirby.

worth a watch

http://www.powerlineblog.com/a...-prefer-not-to-2.php


adding another part of the story:

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/01...ade-public.html?_r=0

Officials at the State Department have said the “upgrading” of the classification of Mrs. Clinton’s emails has been routine. Mr. Kirby said Friday that the classification review was “focused on whether they need to be classified today.”

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We are moving in a strange cloud of smoke here.

The State Dept speaks of "routine" when 22 emails on a private server for years are upgraded to TS/SAP.

This is about as routine as a heart attack.

Kirby and all associated State Dept security personnel should be fired. and prosecuted if it looks like they have been lying throughout this whole affair.

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Originally posted by jallen:

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I have no direct experience, but do recall news accounts of declines to prosecute or absurdly lenient plea deals from the awkwardness of having to introduce classifed info at trial. It must be tricky.

I recall hearing of trials where the prosecution offered as evidence only outdated or compromised material.
The defense of course is going to insist in discovery that everything found in searches and so forth be made available even though they are not cleared to see it.

If, God forbid, you were Counsel for Hillary, you would insist that all of the SAP documents both as sent on her email system, and the originals, be available for the jurors. Naturally the prosecution cannot allow that.

Another tricky part is showing the extent of the damage to national security when you cannot display or explain the actual documents or name agents who may have been compromised.

I think this is why a lot of these cases end up plea bargained into straight forward penalties for violations of regulations involving mishandling classified documents.

The perpetrator should be doing long, hard time but the Government would have to further compromise national security to accomplish that goal.

No doubt it is best follow the Russian System and shoot suspects on the spot so messy trials can be avoided.

John Kirby disgraces the uniform he once wore.

How can the State Dept decide what to send to the FBI and What Not to send?? I thought a Subpoena was for Everything.. Are they saying the FBI does not have clearance to see this?? Then let her be Court Martial-ed Put her in Leavenworth.
I think the emails being held back implicate both Hillary and Obama.. so they are being held back.

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How can they open a investigation while they are with holding evidence from the FBI in emails not yet released?? This can only be to undermine the FBI's investigation and muddy the waters.

I am certain that the FBI has everything that the State Department has plus a lot more.

The FBI has the server (there may be more than one server) and the back-ups that Hillary gave to her law firm. Thus the FBI has the source of the e-mail copies that State is slowly turning over.

An interesting dilemma for State is that they don't know how much the FBI knows, the FBI has been digging and interviewing those involved, so has better sources than State.
State dare not try anymore cover-ups because the FBI may have incriminating evidence.

I think the long overdue "investigation" by State is to cover their bureaucratic asses, they have been making the ridiculous statement that the HRC emails were classified after sent, so now they maybe actually going to check whether that is true. It most certainly is not true.

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Originally posted by mbinky:
John Kirby disgraces the uniform he once wore.

Whose salt you eat, whose song you sing.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:

I bet Pelosi considers it a witch hunt too. If enough people tell a lie sometimes it becomes the "truth".

It's not about "The Truth."

It's about crafting/controlling "The Narrative."


They will continue to push this 'it isn't her fault' narrative for as long as they can; and the longer they do it, the more sheeple will believe the lie.

Temporarily give clearances to the jurors, have them sign non-disclosure documents, advise them of the dire consequences of revealing any information they see, and monitor their communications after the trial for several years.

flashguy