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Does This Bother You Too? “Two white males in their early 30s, fell to the ground...”

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August 29, 2018, 11:21 AM
TMats
Does This Bother You Too? “Two white males in their early 30s, fell to the ground...”
This is Orange County, FL, Sheriff’s Office Deputy, Ingrid Tejada-Monforte, giving a statement for the SO on the death of two men who were killed when the scaffold they were pouring concrete from collapsed.

All you need to listen to is the first minute or so to hear what prompted me to post this. Why is the race of the men killed worthy of mention? Not entirely sure why, but it bothers me a lot.

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August 29, 2018, 11:27 AM
Skins2881
Not sure why it bothers you. I'm more bothered by the time traveling cops that are going to go back to earlier today and notify next of kin. If they have the ability to time travel why not travel a little further back and save their lives?



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August 29, 2018, 11:28 AM
sourdough44
Seemed pretty harmless, 2 white males’. Maybe it was unnecessary at that point, but I don’t see harm intended.
August 29, 2018, 11:28 AM
dusty3030
Not really, she seemed to me to be reading a prepared statement using language that would be found from boxes filled out on an official report.
August 29, 2018, 11:30 AM
HRK
Not really, whats more disturbing is the trend to use the name/person in the description that has nothing to do with the situation.


Workers die in plunge from 6th floor after scaffolding gives way near Disney World

It was a Marriott being built on non Disney property. They do the same stuff here with any news story since it gets more attention/hits.
August 29, 2018, 11:30 AM
rusbro
Could be simply that she's in LE and they're used to stating people's race as part of their daily job, when not addressing the public.
August 29, 2018, 11:32 AM
HayesGreener
Standard LE parlance in describing the "Who"


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August 29, 2018, 11:34 AM
TMats
Acknowledged. Thanks


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August 29, 2018, 12:47 PM
Ripley
Laws, even laws of gravity, only apply to white males so there's that...




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August 29, 2018, 12:51 PM
parabellum
I get your point, TMats.
August 29, 2018, 02:23 PM
FiveFiveSixFan
quote:
Why is the race of the men killed worthy of mention? Not entirely sure why, but it bothers me a lot.


Perhaps because these men, having been victims of an accident and dying as a result, were not criminals and thus posed no threat to the public yet frequently, when violent criminals pose a definite threat to the public and are still on the loose, thus presenting a real threat to the public, race and other descriptors are often not mentioned?
August 29, 2018, 02:50 PM
TMats
Maybe so, 5.56

Thanks, para


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August 29, 2018, 05:46 PM
DonDraper
She didn't tell us the color of the third "near" victim who managed to hang on...


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August 29, 2018, 06:23 PM
mikeyspizza
They must have deleted and replaced the video. No mention of anything but their names. Or, I don't get it.
August 29, 2018, 06:44 PM
TigerDore
It's very prejudicial that she would assume the deceased beings identified as white or male.



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August 29, 2018, 06:59 PM
TMats
quote:
Originally posted by mikeyspizza:
They must have deleted and replaced the video. No mention of anything but their names. Or, I don't get it.

I still see it. It’s no longer at the top of the station’s website, but it’s the second video there.


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August 29, 2018, 08:23 PM
r0gue
Did they update it? I didn't catch race mentioned.




August 29, 2018, 08:29 PM
mikeyspizza
quote:
Originally posted by TMats:
quote:
Originally posted by mikeyspizza:
They must have deleted and replaced the video. No mention of anything but their names. Or, I don't get it.

I still see it. It’s no longer at the top of the station’s website, but it’s the second video there.
Thanks, I was watching the wrong video.

What's bothersome to me is that in cases of a crime the police and/or news now typically omit the color or origin, because that's racist or whatever. Roll Eyes

In this case, the officer (probably subconsciously) gives the old style non-PC description of the perps or victims, but in this case it's not appropriate for the situation.
August 30, 2018, 07:07 AM
71 TRUCK
It bothers me more that they have to say Walt Disney World even though it has nothing to do with Disney.
The property is near Disney right off I4. I pass it all the time and as far as I know it is not on Disney property.
I sometimes think the news does this to sensationalize it more to get the national media to pick up the story.




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August 30, 2018, 10:39 AM
Haveme1or2
I get the satire. If they would have been of colour it would have brought up "why use race to describe" PROFILING RACIST !