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Does anyone know if the Amazon Echo Dot records conversation without you pressing the button? I know the other devices are always listening because they have to listen for the wake up command but the way I understand the Dot is that you have to physically press a button before it begins listening.

If you are only here to trash the smart devices please don't bother. I am not buying one. I am only trying to get more info in order to determine if it is worth starting a fight with my soon to be ex.




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You don't need to press a button - it wakes up with one of the four programmed command words that you set.



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You don't need to press a button - it wakes up with one of the four programmed command words that you set.


Ah, well that answers that. I thought you had to press a button on that one.

Thanks. Looks like I get to get in an argument!




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Near as I can tell, both Amazon listening devices are always listening unless you purposely disable the microphone with the mute button.



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The only difference with the dot is that it has a shitty internal speaker. Other than that it is the same. I am streaming to mine now. I use the line out to a stereo receiver and that drives my floor speakers. Works great.

Check out the echo dash. That's what you might be seeking. Only works via button.

My wife has one in a kitchen drawer to add stuff to her shopping list (Wallmart and local grocery chain, notAmazon).

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The only difference with the dot is that it has a shitty internal speaker. Other than that it is the same. I am streaming to mine now. I use the line out to a stereo receiver and that drives my floor speakers. Works great.

Check out the echo dash. That's what you might be seeking. Only works via button.


Yup, the dash was what I was thinking of.

Thanks!




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This is not verified, but I believe that it records everything locally until it hears it's keyword. The local storage is re-written every 60 seconds. So it's not sending anything it hears to the cloud until it hears the "Alexa" or whatever you tell it to listen for.

Interesting, it's been in the news that Marriott will be bringing Alexa devices into their hotel rooms. Also interesting that the DoD has a contract with Marriott.
 
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Guess I'll never be staying at a Marriott.
 
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Guess I'll never be staying at a Marriott.


I will just drop mine off at the front desk.




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Guess I'll never be staying at a Marriott.


Yeah. Who was the MENSA genius-level junior rocket surgeon that came up with that swell idea?
 
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Guess I'll never be staying at a Marriott.
Do they work under water? Like in the bathtub?



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Works the same as saying Hey Siri on your iPhone or OK google on your android


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Works the same as saying Hey Siri on your iPhone or OK google on your android


Exactly. Lots of folks worry about the Amazon echo or Google home devices, but still carry a smart phone that's always listening. And the phone has a camera and GPS.
 
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Works the same as saying Hey Siri on your iPhone or OK google on your android


Exactly. Lots of folks worry about the Amazon echo or Google home devices, but still carry a smart phone that's always listening. And the phone has a camera and GPS.


You can disable Siri and OK Google and on Android at least, you can force every app to ask permission to use your microphone, location and camera. You still have a perfectly functioning phone. An Echo with the mic disabled is worthless. My mother got one for my daughter and it stays in her room with the door closed.
 
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As others have said it is voice activated, you do not have to press a button.


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The only difference with the dot is that it has a shitty internal speaker. Other than that it is the same. I am streaming to mine now. I use the line out to a stereo receiver and that drives my floor speakers. Works great.

Check out the echo dash. That's what you might be seeking. Only works via button.


Yup, the dash was what I was thinking of.

Thanks!


Yep, the Dash is just an Amazon reorder device, that will use your WiFi to order whatever you have programmed it to do when you push its button (just a small plastic stick-up gadget that has a button and a product logo). Dash devices are specific to a particular set of products assigned to them (one Dash may be just for paper towels for example), and you can program them not to reorder anything until the previous product you ordered has arrived. It has no speakers, microphones or any other function. I assume it has a battery, but none of mine have ever run down, and there are virtual "Dash" buttons you can program on your Amazon account. It's handy if you purchase recurring items (like paper towels) through Amazon - just stick the button over your paper towel stash, and push it when you're running out.

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Near as I can tell, both Amazon listening devices are always listening unless you purposely disable the microphone with the mute button.


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Guess I'll never be staying at a Marriott.


Yeah. Who was the MENSA genius-level junior rocket surgeon that came up with that swell idea?



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Anyone who knowingly lets OK Google, Siri or Alexa into their house or place of work is asking for trouble.

I cannot see much good of having anyone or anything listening into your conversations even if it is 60 seconds at a time. Who is to say that they don't record the entire stream and then run it through whatever processors they desire.

Ask yourself if the government or military would allow these type of intrusive devices into their areas.
 
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Works the same as saying Hey Siri on your iPhone or OK google on your android


Exactly. Lots of folks worry about the Amazon echo or Google home devices, but still carry a smart phone that's always listening. And the phone has a camera and GPS.


You can call out ok google to my android phone all day long and its not going to hear you.



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