Be careful judging others faith. There is only 1 that can to that, and it is the Lord himself.
The "Boz"
September 22, 2025, 07:36 PM
parabellum
Take it easy
September 22, 2025, 08:12 PM
92fstech
I believe that God calls us to forgive, and that it also doesn't do any of us any good to harbor anger or hate or seek vengeance. That stuff will eat you up from the inside. That doesn't mean I'm always the best at it, but that's the ideal.
At the same time, God is a just God and has given us a desire for justice. Justice is a righteous ideal. Human vengeance is not. He established the government as a tool to carry out justice, and it's ok to hope that that system works as designed and achieves that goal. God has used far worse earthly authorities as His tools in the past, and I have faith that He can use ours as well.
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September 22, 2025, 08:37 PM
sigmoid
You can't kill evil dead enough
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September 22, 2025, 08:52 PM
Rey HRH
Forgiveness is intentionally releasing feelings of resentment, anger, or vengeance toward someone who has harmed or wronged you.
I can let go of my feelings while still allowing them to suffer the consequences of the wrong they committed and have a clear conscience about it.
"It did not really matter what we expected from life, but rather what life expected from us. We needed to stop asking about the meaning of life, and instead to think of ourselves as those who were being questioned by life – daily and hourly. Our answer must consist not in talk and meditation, but in right action and in right conduct. Life ultimately means taking the responsibility to find the right answer to its problems and to fulfill the tasks which it constantly sets for each individual." Viktor Frankl, Man's Search for Meaning, 1946.
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September 22, 2025, 09:24 PM
parabellum
quote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH: I can let go of my feelings while still allowing them to suffer the consequences of the wrong they committed and have a clear conscience about it.
Yeah
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September 22, 2025, 09:27 PM
c1steve
quote:
Originally posted by Rey HRH: Forgiveness is intentionally releasing feelings of resentment, anger, or vengeance toward someone who has harmed or wronged you.
I can let go of my feelings while still allowing them to suffer the consequences of the wrong they committed and have a clear conscience about it.
I agree. Do not let the anger get to you. Those that commit these various evil deeds should be imprisoned or killed, but it should be for justice not for revenge. Have no sympathy, for they deserve what may come for them.
-c1steve
September 22, 2025, 09:27 PM
FenderBender
The right as well as most sensible people have been unified by Kirks death, they need a galvanizing moment. If you want violence, that will be when you'll have it.
_____________________________________________ Proverbs 3:31 "Envy thou not the oppressor, and choose none of his ways."
September 23, 2025, 02:35 AM
synthplayer
quote:
Originally posted by 12131: Forgive? No problem. Just let the government carry out justice.
This view is supported by the Bible. Although, sometimes we have a problem with the forgiveness part.
I found what you said riveting.
September 23, 2025, 05:14 AM
tatortodd
I posted this quote in the Charlie Kirk thread:
Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity
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September 23, 2025, 07:09 AM
Jimineer
“Forgiveness is between them and God. It's my job to arrange the meeting" - John Creasy. Man on Fire.
September 23, 2025, 07:34 AM
mr kablammo
As a Buddhist, my favorite Christian is Oliver Cromwell. I have a copy of his last prayer in a folder somewhere. The blokes over in the UK should start practicing with the pikes, halberds, long bows, and bastard swords. For historical research...
"It is only with the heart that one can see rightly; what is essential is invisible to the eye". The Little Prince, Antoine de Saint-Exupery, pilot and author, lost on mission, July 1944, Med Theatre.
September 23, 2025, 08:00 AM
clubleaf206
It’s a good thing and one that every good Christian should aspire to. But I never said I was a very good Christian.
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September 23, 2025, 08:08 AM
HRK
"Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary."
"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence."
September 23, 2025, 08:11 AM
bdylan
Forgiveness is somewhat overrated. I've forgiven peoples for all kinds of transgressions over the years, and it's just never given me a warm, pleasant feeling. In our modern society, many people interpret forgiveness as a fundamental weakness.
September 23, 2025, 08:12 AM
redstone
Now.. I forgive you Bad Man
This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson
September 23, 2025, 08:28 AM
benny6
I'm a very flawed Christian. But a Christian, nonetheless. Charlie Kirk's wife quoted "forgive them, for they know not what they do..."
I have a very difficult time (impossible, actually) forgiving those who know what they do, yet do it anyway, out of pure malice and selfish ambition.
I do pray for God's will and justice to be done and surrender it to Him. Although my flesh wants vengeance and I desire to imagine the harshest pain, suffering, torture and retribution to our enemies, I, personally, have to quell those thoughts, lest The Lord turn and punish me. And I have a very distinguished list of offenders.
Romans 12:19
“Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: ‘It is mine to avenge; I will repay,’ says the Lord.”
Proverbs 24: 17 Do not gloat when your enemy falls; when they stumble, do not let your heart rejoice, 18 or the Lord will see and disapprove and turn his wrath away from them.
