it is important to both to achieve mutually beneficial understanding. you want a third gen use. she wants safety.

expressing your thoughts constructively it might be possible to say…it is important to me that our family crib is used, and i have taken steps to modernize it to meet the goals of current regulations.

buy a net to eliminate the wide gaps. block the drop down.

If you don't update and change the regulations, how you gonna sell more cribs.....

Same issues here, we had to just junk the cribs and old cars seats, baby stuff, outside of a few toys and sentimental things, non of it is "regulation"

10K injuries and 100 deaths a year from cribs.

It looks like the crib I had as a child 60+ years ago.

Would I use it No, do I think it is really dangerous? No.

We used a pack-and-play at that age.

I wanted to be as safe as possible.

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Technically, “no,” but you can buy crib pads that go around the inside of the crib and stay in place with ties, that should increase the margin of safety considerably.

'Bumpers' are a no-no now. Kid could smother in them.

I had no idea.

BTW, we have a Pack and Play, they’re $50

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Originally posted by TMats:

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:

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Originally posted by TMats:
Technically, “no,” but you can buy crib pads that go around the inside of the crib and stay in place with ties, that should increase the margin of safety considerably.

'Bumpers' are a no-no now. Kid could smother in them.

I had no idea.

BTW, we have a Pack and Play, they’re $50

We have a pack and play, too.
The infant goes in there and the toddler goes in the (old & unsafe, evidently) crib.
When the toddler was an infant, she was in the crib.

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Originally posted by TMats:

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Originally posted by WaterburyBob:

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Originally posted by TMats:
Technically, “no,” but you can buy crib pads that go around the inside of the crib and stay in place with ties, that should increase the margin of safety considerably.

'Bumpers' are a no-no now. Kid could smother in them.

I had no idea.

BTW, we have a Pack and Play

It's a SIDS (Sudden Infant Death Syndrome) thing.

SIDS is the label that gets applied when an apparently healthy infant just dies in his or her sleep for no apparent reason.

It is not well understood, but the thinking is that the part of the brain that makes you wake up and move around if you aren't getting enough oxygen is not always developed enough in infants under 1 year of age. The infant gets in a position where he or she can't get enough oxygen and suffocates in his or her sleep because the normal signal to wake up and move around doesn't happen.

This is the reason for the big "back to sleep" push in the 80s and 90s and the reason that current AAP (American Academy of Pediatrics) guidelines are that cribs for infants under 1 year have a firm mattress, a well-fitted sheet, and absolutely nothing else in them except the baby - no bumpers, no pillows, no blankets, no stuffed animals, nothing (and the baby in snug clothing and/or a snug swaddle, with no loose fabric).

It seems to have made a difference, SIDS deaths in the US are currently about 1/4 what they were in 1990.

I tend to push this information when the topic comes up, first, because it matters, but also because it's personal. I lost a baby brother to SIDS 33 years ago tomorrow.

The drop-rail cribs are kind of a similar problem. Everyone you know could use one and you'd probably never know anyone that had a problem with one, but across the United States, they killed and maimed a bunch of babies in ways that wouldn't have happened in cribs with fixed sides, so why take the small but completely unnecessary risk of a horrific outcome?

is driving a pinto safe, we all did it, what about a corvair?

Seems like a battle I wouldn't want to have.

New mom's get to be jumpy, that how we stay alive. Grandpa might want to remove the rail and keep the rest for when grandbabay is 3 or 4 and needs a toddler bed to come visit. Everyone wins

I voted “no”, for the same reason I use seatbelts and keep a fire extinguisher around. Really the same reason I carry a gun.

While it’s highly unlikely something bad will happen regardless, I can significantly reduce the risk of a horrific outcome.

It should be totally fine. It really depends on your daughter and what she thinks. Things like that are very personal and people feel strongly about it one way or the other.