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Originally posted by PowerSurge:
Even though at the last they will be surrounded by the armies of many, many nations.

ALL nations abandon her. Clearly, a Democrat will be in the White House at the time.

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Originally posted by sigmonkey:

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is is synth's paraphrasing of the scriptures from the Old Testament.)

Am I mistaken?

Backlash to boomers being brainwashed by evangelicalism into worshipping a foreign nation, and putting their desires ahead of Americas.

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Originally posted by synthplayer:...

Am I mistaken?

no

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Originally posted by Beancooker:

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Originally posted by 4MUL8R:

The conflict began when two sons were born to two mothers who were married to the same man.

This right here. I don’t think both women were married to Abraham. Only Sarah was. Hagar was never his wife.

Now the people with more knowledge of religion can extrapolate…

According to the Book of Genesis, Hagar is an Egyptian slave, a handmaiden of Sarah (then known as Sarai), whom Sarah gave to her own husband Abram (later renamed Abraham) as a wife to bear him a child.

But the trouble began with the birth of two sons...leading to two different faiths...

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Originally posted by bronicabill:
Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe I'm just dense, but why the excessive hate for Israel? They are peace-loving and keep to themselves as far as I can see.

Can somebody explain it to me in a way that simple minds can understand?

But they aren't peace loving and don't keep to themselves. There is a big difference in the opinion of Jews from Boomers (sorry for the term but it's the most accurate in this context) and the younger generations. This is mainly due to the positive portrayal of the Jews during the 60's-70's-80's-90's when information was not as easily questioned or verified. The younger generation (conservate) has been able to fact check their history and it doesn't look good honestly. I'd say start here in your spare time:

https://rumble.com/playlists/blReUQvCRjI

It's listed backwards to make sure you start with Part 1.

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Backlash to boomers being brainwashed by evangelicalism into worshipping a foreign nation, and putting their desires ahead of Americas.

Can this be elaborated-on?

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Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
Backlash to boomers being brainwashed by evangelicalism into worshipping a foreign nation, and putting their desires ahead of Americas.

I don’t know where to even begin with this one

There was no brainwashing involved in the development of my recognition of and admiration for Israel at the time of the 1967 war. I admit that at 21 years old to having been pretty ignorant about a lot pertaining to the region at the time, but I was aware of the Soviet Union’s involvement in Egypt during the Nassar regime as well as his efforts against Britain’s control of the Suez canal. I believe those things contributed to the somewhat common anti-Arab feeling in general before the war started.

When Israel was attacked less than 30 years after the start of WWII in Europe that began in a similar way and which was still very familiar to many in the US because they were alive in 1939 or at least were among those who actually knew something about history, that certainly contributed to support for Israel.

Later in 1973 the next assault against Israel and the subsequent oil embargo and gasoline shortage crisis also enhanced anti-Arab feelings and support for Israel—the latter at least by default. No brainwashing when someone who had to drive from one state to another couldn’t be sure he wouldn’t end up stranded by the side of the road in the middle of Nebraska (as one friend related about a trip).

And yes, I am a boomer. At the same time, though, I doubt anyone has been influenced less by evangelicalism into worshiping anything than I. So there.

Envy, myth and ignorance. That’s what it boils down to.

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Originally posted by JonDaddy82:
The younger generation (conservate)

This younger generation also celebrates the October 7th attack as justified.

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Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
Backlash to boomers being brainwashed by evangelicalism into worshipping a foreign nation, and putting their desires ahead of Americas.

No need to speak bro, we already understand you hate Jews and Israel.

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Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
Backlash to boomers being brainwashed by evangelicalism into worshipping a foreign nation, and putting their desires ahead of Americas.

Cry harder.

I was going to wax philosophical, looking at history from the dark ages up to post WWII. But the more I think about it, the less I understand it.

Yes, there is tribalism wired into our evolutionary brains. Yes, there is at least a cultural teaching of envy for those who succeed. There is some historical animosity based on banking (e.g. money lending) religious dogma.

Yet the Knights Templar weren't hated or targets of genocide. For most of post-industrialization western society, those who are successful from their own legitimate labors have been seen as good role models to emulate.

In the end, I don't understand the fear or hatred from non-muslims. From muslims, well they're just trained from birth to have deep murderous hatred.

I'm a late GenX, Oregon Trail, or early Millinial depending on how you want to define generations...born during Ronald Reagan's first term.

I fully support Israel and think the strike against Iran's nuclear program was necessary.

I think the massive amount of anti-semitism and general anti-Israel nonsense we are seeing is the result of a very strategic campaign waged by anti-Israel countries and groups in our education system dating back at least thirty years.

Leftwing institutions and groups have adopted a anti-Israel and anti-Jew stance for years that has bled into education and labor unions, especially teachers unions.

In organized religion you see it the the Presbyterian Church USA (PC USA) who adopted a very anti-Israel stance about fifteen years ago. A lot of us grew up in churches that taught dispensationalism and there has been an organized heavy backlash against that theology.

The isolationism fallacy has long reared its ugly head off and on in American culture. It was heavily prevalent right before WW2...both on the extreme Left and extreme Right. We saw how that ended up playing out. While I could give a flip about Ukraine and don't want us sending all of our money and arms there, the backlash to it of pure isolationism to every threat is beyond dangerous. I think some of the extreme isolationist viewpoints we're seeing on the right are a overreaction to the Iraq War and left's pathetic doting on Ukraine in the last few years.

So when you get to guys like Tucker, who I generally agree with on lots of topics, he's already stated he's basically anti-dispensationalist (simplified, dispensationalist theology believes that the path of the Jewish people is directly linked to Christianity) from a religious standpoint and he's now adopted, in just the last few years, the almost classic pre-WW2 Isolationist viewpoint. He hates Lindsey Graham (your classic neocon who I don't necessarily care for either) and his ilk, so Graham's support of our involvement in global conflicts pushes Tucker even farther to this viewpoint.

This is a very dangerous combination.

We're the only country, both in terms of weapons and willpower, with the ability to keep Iran from obtaining a nuclear device. If we do nothing they will end up with one. They declared war on the United States in 1979 when they attacked our embassy and held our personnel hostage, when they continuously chant Death to America, when they put out a hit on our personnel, and over the decades when they've repeatedly attacked us through their proxies. If you think Iran, a country that believes in suicide bombings, wouldn't use a nuclear device against us or our allies you are delusional.

The extreme Left in America hates our country. They always have. That should be obvious. They hate Israel because they hate the concept of morality, God, and Christianity/Judaism.

The extreme Right has run back to pre-WW2 isolationist stance (think Charles Lindbergh). Because Israel (and likely the sane Arab states like Jordan) are asking for our help to intervene they become the de facto enemy (much like Britain to people with the same viewpoint in 1939).

Therefore if Israel wants to drag us into a war then them, and by consequence Jews, are the problem, in their eyes.

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Originally posted by KSGM:
Can this be elaborated-on?

$18 billion in aid since the Oct 7 attacks is pure insanity. Before we send one dime to a country that has universal healthcare, every single American should be taken care of. Taxes are for the betterment of our own country, not foreigners.

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Originally posted by braillediver:
This younger generation also celebrates the October 7th attack as justified.

Wrong, Israel is 100% justified in killing all of Hamas and pushing everyone out of Gaza and claiming it as their own in retribution.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
No need to speak bro, we already understand you hate Jews and Israel.

I hate their involvement of our country. They could go ham on their neighbors, as long as the United States didn’t get involved in every single spat.

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Originally posted by Mars_Attacks:
Cry harder.

I’m really hoping that the strikes gets the job done, and we don’t get pulled into another 20 years of bullshit war.

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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:
Yet the Knights Templar weren't hated or targets of genocide.

Although I’m not familiar with what you’re referring to about the Knights Templar, I’m guessing that’s a good example. The issue I see is reason versus excuse. When we want to hate someone, it’s always better if we can cite a justifiable reason—genuine or if necessary invented.

I think back to when prejudice against Blacks started to become socially less acceptable in the 1960s. The older slurs about their supposedly being lazy hung on longer than just not liking them because they weren’t (so-called) “white.”

Historically prejudice against Jews was supported by a number of supposed reasons from their being “Christ killers” to the bizarre such as the belief that they used the blood of babies from Christian families in their matzos. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion was a book that we’d call disinformation today, but to this day people believe it outlined Jewry’s plans for world domination. Such claims are “reasons” enough for those people to hold antisemitic views without the odium of just blind prejudice.

...and if you think these are new arguments...

Edward I issued the Edict of Expulsion in 1290 to kick Jews out of England.

In 1655, Oliver Cromwell brought Jews back to England.

The Jewish People have been getting bounced around the Levant, Europe, and the Americas for the last 3,500 years.

One place they have been the entire time, whether ruling or conquered, is in Jerusalem.

The Muslim hate for Jews goes back a thousand plus years over who should own Jerusalem. The current hate in the Arab world is over the establishment if Israel after WWII on land they didn't control to begin with...

The hate in this country, I would gather is you ask, is more due to propaganda and following what they are told more than any personally developed spite.