July 09, 2023, 08:21 AM
Oz_ShadowFederal charges, a stretch or not? Opinions please.
As long as the crime fits, you can be separately charged and convicted in both state and federal court for the same act.
July 09, 2023, 09:03 AM
L90814quote:
Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
My brother, who is a Fed, was talking about a case he was working that didn't cross state lines. I questioned him about it, and he said that it is easy for them to get a case if they want it. Anything to do with the Post Office, like you received any mail? Federal. Used a cell phone that connected or used any technology across state lines? Federal. Looked up something on the internet, and the ip traffic crossed state lines? Federal. Used your GPS during the crime? Federal. The list of ways that the Feds can justify a case is long. I doubt they'd have to use simply driving on an interstate highway. Like jljones said, that's probably the media beating the click drum.
This is correct.
July 09, 2023, 01:14 PM
MikeinNCquote:
Originally posted by nhracecraft:
^^^'Bigfoot cases', as in step all over the state's jurisdiction?
Exactly.
There’s enough cases already in the federal system that if they go after a state case there’s a reason. Sometimes it’s because the state DA knows their system is lenient and they want the guy to go away-and fed time will satisfy that.
We used to do it (offer up state cases to the feds) to get rid of people who already had 40-50 convictions but had many of the original felonies turned into misdemeanors and that’s how the guy avoided serious time. Usually all we had to do was catch him with a gun and him having one felony conviction- we would tell the Fed ADA about his history and he was a plague on our city and voila! The fed ADA got a easy win and it boosted his numbers of convictions.
July 09, 2023, 04:51 PM
PykerI don't care who prosecutes the case, as long as the shitbag gets the needle when he's convicted.
July 09, 2023, 05:32 PM
ruger357This is how the courts have perverted the constitution to put the feds in charge of everything. See the Ollie’s bbq case many years ago. They were located next to an interstate so anything that happens there is a federal case.
July 09, 2023, 06:39 PM
ssequote:
Originally posted by shovelhead:
That quote is directly from WWJ Radio but it just didn’t seem right to me, seems like a major stretch.
well, if my suspicion is correct, the person who said that is kind of a lightweight
July 09, 2023, 06:46 PM
ssequote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
quote:
Originally posted by nhracecraft:
^^^'Bigfoot cases', as in step all over the state's jurisdiction?
Exactly.
There’s enough cases already in the federal system that if they go after a state case there’s a reason. Sometimes it’s because the state DA knows their system is lenient and they want the guy to go away-and fed time will satisfy that.
We used to do it (offer up state cases to the feds) to get rid of people who already had 40-50 convictions but had many of the original felonies turned into misdemeanors and that’s how the guy avoided serious time. Usually all we had to do was catch him with a gun and him having one felony conviction- we would tell the Fed ADA about his history and he was a plague on our city and voila! The fed ADA got a easy win and it boosted his numbers of convictions.
fed overreach, not much left of states' rights any more, they willingly gave it all away.
July 09, 2023, 07:38 PM
YooperSigsIf the interstate commerce violation wont wash, the Feds can also possibly treat the homicide as a civil rights violation.
July 10, 2023, 09:08 AM
shovelheadFor these charges, third time in 2021 and already sentenced to one year in prison and he goes to trial in this county and gets two years probation: But in August 2021, he was again charged with assault and obstructing Michigan State Police in Livingston County, according to court records.
After that incident in Handy Township near Fowlerville, Trice pled guilty and admitted in court records that he "fled two police officers in a motor vehicle, assaulted two officers w/ a motor vehicle, resisted/obstructed 2 officers and operated a motor vehicle w/o a license," according to Livingston County court records.
A Livingston County judge sentenced Trice to two years of probation in January 2022 for fleeing police, felonious assault and assaulting, resisting and obstructing police. Trice pled guilty to six counts
Three court cases before and after and he got time for those but here he gets probation?
Maybe the Feds won’t play with this guy like the state courts have been doing.
July 10, 2023, 09:22 AM
DaBigBRquote:
Originally posted by YooperSigs:
If the interstate commerce violation wont wash, the Feds can also possibly treat the homicide as a civil rights violation.
Must prove deprivation of rights under color of law.