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All-male military draft ruled unconstitutional by federal judge in Texas
February 25, 2019, 12:22 AM
olfuzzyAll-male military draft ruled unconstitutional by federal judge in Texas
The all-male military draft is unconstitutional, a federal judge in Texas ruled Friday.
U.S. District Judge Gray Miller of the Southern District of Texas wrote the “time has passed” on debate for women in the military, regardless of whether the matter of women serving in combat “may have justified past discrimination,” as USA Today reported.
“The average woman could conceivably be better suited physically for some of today’s combat positions than the average man, depending on which skills the position required. Combat roles no longer uniformly require sheer size or muscle,” Miller wrote, in the form of a declaratory judgment rather than an injunction.
A lawsuit had been brought by the National Coalition for Men, which sought to raise “awareness about the ways sex discrimination affects men and boys.”
Marc Angelucci, an attorney for the men who brought the lawsuit, told USA Today the ruling may be “symbolic,” however, “either they need to get rid of the draft registration, or they need to require women to do the same thing that men do.”
In 2015, the Pentagon announced all combat roles would be open to women. The U.S. hasn’t had a military draft since 1973, during the Vietnam War era.
Under current law, women can volunteer to serve in the military, but aren’t required to register for the draft. All adult men must register within 30 days of their 18th birthday and risk losing eligibility for student aid, job training and government jobs if they fail to comply.
Signing up for the draft entails registering with the Selective Service System, an independent agency aimed at ensuring a fair distribution of military duties if the president and Congress had to enact a draft.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/all...tutional-judge-texasFebruary 25, 2019, 12:32 AM
bobtheelfEquality!
February 25, 2019, 12:38 AM
Gustoferquote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy:
“The average woman could conceivably be better suited physically for some of today’s combat positions than the average man, depending on which skills the position required. Combat roles no longer uniformly require sheer size or muscle,” Miller wrote, in the form of a declaratory judgment rather than an injunction.
Horseshit!
Regarding the ruling though, I'm all in favor of it...provided the women are not placed in combat roles.
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February 25, 2019, 03:26 AM
CoinRollerThe shit would have to hit the fan for the Draft to return. Women can likely pilot drones as well as anybody. Such a non-issue.
I Drink & I Know Things February 25, 2019, 04:14 AM
Micropterusquote:
must register within 30 days of their 18th birthday and risk losing eligibility for student aid, job training and government jobs if they fail to comply.
Accordingly, all women that are of the same age range that men can be drafted should have to register. Not just those turning 18 after the ruling.
It doesn't matter if there is a draft or not. Can you imagine feminists now having to comply with this? Feminism has never been about equality.
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February 25, 2019, 04:40 AM
limblessbiffA bunch of panties are gonna be in a twist over this one
February 25, 2019, 04:52 AM
SIGSenseThis is great. Nothing screams equality like equal battlefield combat deaths.
February 25, 2019, 06:23 AM
FenrisGender benderisms aside, women have exclusively filled filled the critical function of breed stock to replenish the population following the periodic culling of men in war. As Beautiful Bennet said on The Ranch, "You don't sell your heffers."
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JohnCouragequote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy:
“The average woman could conceivably be better suited physically for some of today’s combat positions than the average man, depending on which skills the position required. Combat roles no longer uniformly require sheer size or muscle,” Miller wrote, in the form of a declaratory judgment rather than an injunction.
It's not that women may be equally suited for some combat rolls. No, they would be even better. Also, does this mean the draft would remove gender as a consideration?
JC
February 25, 2019, 07:28 AM
MikeinNCEvery female between 18 to 40 needs to sign up with Selective Service immediately.
That’s equality.
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erj_pilotI think a certain judge in a certain Southern District of Texas has watched "Starship Troopers" one too many times...
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Muddflapquote:
Originally posted by erj_pilot:
I think a certain judge in a certain Southern District of Texas has watched "Starship Troopers" one too many times...
Equal showers for everyone.
February 25, 2019, 07:49 AM
caneauquote:
Originally posted by JohnCourage:
quote:
Originally posted by olfuzzy:
“The average woman could conceivably be better suited physically for some of today’s combat positions than the average man, depending on which skills the position required. Combat roles no longer uniformly require sheer size or muscle,” Miller wrote, in the form of a declaratory judgment rather than an injunction.
It's not that women may be equally suited for some combat rolls. No, they would be even better. Also, does this mean the draft would remove gender as a consideration?
I think he's referring to certain positions in certain vehicles. And it's certainly the case for helicopters where 50 extra pounds of weight is a big deal.
Set the same objective standards and move on. Women in combat roles won't be average. They'll be in the top percentiles of fitness, strength, and stamina. Make the cut, earn the badge.
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February 25, 2019, 07:57 AM
Doc H.quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
Every female between 18 to 40 needs to sign up with Selective Service immediately.
That’s equality.
This.
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RHINOWSOGood.
February 25, 2019, 08:08 AM
parabellumEquality can be a real bitch, huh, ladies?
February 25, 2019, 08:29 AM
rexlesPersonally, I feel ANY draft should be unconstitutional with out a declaration of war from congress.
No declared war NO draft.
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February 25, 2019, 08:32 AM
arabiancowboyquote:
Originally posted by caneau:
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Originally posted by JohnCourage:
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Originally posted by olfuzzy:
“The average woman could conceivably be better suited physically for some of today’s combat positions than the average man, depending on which skills the position required. Combat roles no longer uniformly require sheer size or muscle,” Miller wrote, in the form of a declaratory judgment rather than an injunction.
It's not that women may be equally suited for some combat rolls. No, they would be even better. Also, does this mean the draft would remove gender as a consideration?
Set the same objective standards and move on. Women in combat roles won't be average. They'll be in the top percentiles of fitness, strength, and stamina. Make the cut, earn the badge.
Except that isn’t how it works now. There are different, lower, standards for women. Women are currently in combat roles. Meeting a lower standard.
February 25, 2019, 08:32 AM
radiomanquote:
“The average woman could conceivably be better suited physically for some of today’s combat positions than the average man, depending on which skills the position required. Combat roles no longer uniformly require sheer size or muscle,” Miller wrote, in the form of a declaratory judgment rather than an injunction.
Totally sexist comments made here. Just sayin'
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February 25, 2019, 08:43 AM
Elk HunterI would like to see any "average" female in the military today that can match the average male.
"flak" jackets, helmets, ammo, other associated gear that adds up to quite a load. Then run a few hundred yards with all that load, and then be able to place aimed rounds on target.
Or do that in a location that is 6-7 thousand feet above sea level.
I would like to see the average female pick up a wounded man and carry him to safety and medical treatment.
I seem to recall some "testing" done some time ago to see how females compared to males in the program. Very few of them could get it done.
My grandson got blown up in an IED (member of special forces unit) and had to be carried to safety, treated, defended, and then evacuated.
Are there places in the military where women can compete with men? Of course, but full "equality" is not true.
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