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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:
Haven't they been doing this to motorcycles since the 90's?

No. You're thinking of voluntarily caps on top speed motorcycle and PWC manufacturers have been doing.

If you had read the article, you would find that vehicles with ISA would know what the speed limit was for a road the vehicle was traveling on based on the vehicle's GPS location, a database and then cap the speed accordingly. For example, the vehicle wouldn't go 60 on a 30mph residential street, but would be allowed to go say 90 on a 70mph freeway.

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Originally posted by newtoSig765:
This new technology should be tested before it is mandated for everybody.

I know, apply it to all Police cars, Ambulances, and other emergency response vehicles for ten years before you try fucking with everybody else!

I would prefer that they install it in these idiot "legislators'" vehicles and make them drive themselves. No paid drivers for them. Reduce them to the level of all those "peons" who the elected officials seem to think are too dumb to make up their own minds regarding such nonsense.

Our army tried something like this way back when I was a member. Governors on combat vehicles, like the M59's. Limited speed to max of 35 mph.

It took us a very short time to figure out how to defeat those stupid ideas. Anyone care to imagine the idiocy of that dumbness? Ordnance kept coming to "inspect" our vehicles and would install new governors. First time the vehicles left the post we blew the governors within 1 mile on the road. Back then, speedometers on our vehicles topped out at 55. And we exceeded that when on the roads, or even cross country.

I’m the government and I’m here to save you.

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Me, I use a map and compass and, if pushed, my GPS.

So do I, but I guess we are "so old school".

All these new and fancy "phones" have so many "aps" available. Never having owned one, and will never own one, I have to ask the following.

Do those all-in-one fancy phones actually work when out miles and miles in the boonies? Have no idea, but I truly doubt they are satellite capable.

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
we're going to driverless cars soon enough...

No we're not.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by FenderBender:
we're going to driverless cars soon enough...

No we're not.

Yup; autonomous cars are a ways out.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/s...-to-earth-1543621055

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Originally posted by Elk Hunter:

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Me, I use a map and compass and, if pushed, my GPS.

So do I, but I guess we are "so old school".

All these new and fancy "phones" have so many "aps" available. Never having owned one, and will never own one, I have to ask the following.

Do those all-in-one fancy phones actually work when out miles and miles in the boonies? Have no idea, but I truly doubt they are satellite capable.

Well, I’m sure it depends on the phone and the app, but the in phone GPS does not require a cellular network. If you have downloaded the appropriate map data into the phone, your gps mapping should work just fine with no cellular connection.

You won’t be making any calls though...

I think we will slowly move towards more autonomous vehicles. Hopefully an option to disable autopilot/autonomous driving modes will always be around, but as times and societies change who knows. Having just driven from Va Beach to Winston Salem I can say I absolutely would love to have had the ability to set my vehicle on self drive mode for a while. So long as it didn’t drive off the road or crash and kill me.

The vehicle speed limiter thing makes sense. These nanny state wannabe dictators just love to act in heavy handed ways when it comes to rules and such. I can see Australia (at least Victoria for sure) adopting something like this very soon as well as states like NY and CA.

Any modern car has a computer ECM (engine control mudule). It will take no time at all to override or alter any factory settings with a plug in tuner or laptop program. If they make it hack-proof, tuning shops may have to add a few minutes of time to the re-program.

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Originally posted by rduckwor:
I wonder how the manufacturers of cars such as Mercedes, Porsche, and BMW will fight this

Most of their more pedestrian cars are speed limited for the U.S. (Limited to 155mph) I had assumed that it was the case for Europe, as well.

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Originally posted by P250UA5:
Saw an article this morning that Volvo is going to cap its cars at 112mph.

You'd have to drive a Volvo off a cliff to get it up to 112mph anyway.

I can't imagine the police would support this. Waaaay too much money collected from speeders.

Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gwpLvLb0_0c

My 2005 Ford truck cuts of at 100 ...
I guess it's a weird one. I don't know if anyone else's that does.

BR(Everyone)XIT.

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ETSC projects director Graziella Jost said:

500 people die every week on EU roads, a figure that has refused to budge for several years. And driving too fast is still the number one killer. It’s very simple: if we want to bring down the number of road deaths, we have to tackle speed effectively. Right now, the EU has a once-in-a-generation opportunity to make a massive difference.”

Quite simply, I do not believe that. I think distracted driving is the number 1 killer, and if it's not, then impaired driving is. "Impaired" doesn't have to be intoxicated, it can be driving when tired, sick, or distraught. I just do not believe it's "driving too fast."

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Originally posted by stickman428:
The Hayabusa did kick off the era of factory restricted bikes but just how much they are restricted probably varies bike to bike.

If I recall correctly, Hayabusas were limited either at 186mph or 194mph.

Yeah but by then imagine the liability of changing it and then getting in a wreck.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Any modern car has a computer ECM (engine control mudule). It will take no time at all to override or alter any factory settings with a plug in tuner or laptop program. If they make it hack-proof, tuning shops may have to add a few minutes of time to the re-program.

Unintended consequences.... that loss of revenue from speeding tickets could very well be a l8miting factor. And like “common sense gun control” speed limiting will NOT change anything. I’ve seen situations where 100MPH would be useful and safe, but I’ve also seen situations where 20MPH would be insanely unsafe. So what limit are they proposing? Likely as not, there are an equal number of deaths occurring at speeds below any proposed limitation. Maybe if people were held accountable for their actions? That might work even better.

Not to mention the Italians and Germans may feel the need to conquer parts of Europe again because the automotive industry just went down the drain. Anyone up for a quarter million dollar Lambo that limited to 40MPH?

My stock base engine 2007 Corvette can go 186mph according to the factory. Can't prove it by me. I do know it can go 80 mph and it gets there pretty quickly if you ask it to.