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Mr firearms, you talk just like the DEM shill Adam Schiff. I am not arguing about what the wife of Rosenstein has done. There are much bigger fish to fry. I am fully attacking your comment about people need to quit seeing damn conspiracies 'Believe what you want. Time will tell. You forgot the Rothschilds, the underground Lizard people, and the guys who faked the moon landing are in on it too." Hey big shot, why not jump into the threads that have been laying out the conspiracy for months? How about telling us specifically what your disagreements are with facts that have been built up over dozens of public documents? Instead you come here and blabber on about lizard people. I'll jump back in when you actually present anything that backs up your comment: "Again, not saying Trump is guilty of shit, but it’s not completely made up." | |||
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Probably not, just a figment of Burroughs' imagination...unless she runs around naked. _________________________________________________________________________ “A man’s treatment of a dog is no indication of the man’s nature, but his treatment of a cat is. It is the crucial test. None but the humane treat a cat well.” -- Mark Twain, 1902 | |||
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Fake moon landing? I think not. This woman is a genuine Martian! I'm betting she doesn't look anything like Dejah Thoris, though. __________________________ "Sooner or later, wherever people go, there's the law. And sooner or later, they find out that God's already been there." -- John Wayne as Chisum | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process  |
Not all conspiracies are created equal. The info about Rosenstein’s wife is not plausible except to the ignorant, the suspicious, and the gullible which is who those websites cater to. A molehill of coincidences can be made into a mountain of festering, odious evil for that crowd to click on and curse, unlanced by reality. Now, she may turn out to be a complete Cruella de Vil, but the info these guys are collecting doesn’t come close to establish that. It is not unheard off for husband and wife lawyers to have rather different political views. A prominent couple, although not lawyers, one might think of is Mary Matalin and James Carver. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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James Carville?   __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Yeah, but I got Cruella de Vil right. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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I’ll let the Mueller team sum it all up for you in a few months. Go make some more kool aid and turn up the Fox News, and bookmark Infowars and Alex Jones. That’s where you can hear what you want. I’ve been a lifelong (adult at least) Republican and NRA member. Your hatred of Hillary and the liberals makes you assume Trump is innocent. That question is still open. I like Trump on some issues. Tax cuts, 2Nd Am, etc. But like or dislike has nothing to do with facts. Conan! What is best in life? Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women. | |||
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You expect "facts" from a team composed of only left wing partisans? A team that has to keep changing directions because they cannot find anything? Lol you are funny. Let me guess, you believe Hillary never compromised classified information either do you? | |||
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Mueller is a lifelong Republican appointed by that crazy left winger George Bush. Rosenstein is a lifelong Republican appointed by Trump. Sessions is a lifelong GOP Senator and former Judge appointed by Trump. Mueller is a bronze Star Marine. I’m sure General Flynn just plead guilty because it’s all bullshit. I guess Gates and George Popodoplis did too. You live in a fantasy world if you think this is a conspiracy by the FBI, Obama, Clinton and Comey. How blind do you have to be to think Hillary had Russian dirt on Trump but mysteriously held it back. How blind do you have to be to think Comey kept Hillary hanging and then held a press conference saying she is basically guilty but he cant be sure of a conviction so no charges. Then 10days before the election re opens the investigation on Hillary and says well there may be more on Weiners laptop. How can there be a conspiracy against Trump by Comey, Mueller, Hillary and Obama when FBI did nothing but hang her out (deservedly so by the way). Finally, why would Trump Fire Comey for treating Hillary improperly, as he said in the formal firing letter, if Comey was in Hillary pocket. I’m not gonna debate this stuff on a gun forum with everyone. You have your opinion. I have mine. Time will tell who is right. Have a nice night. Conan! What is best in life? Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women. | |||
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If Mueller is a "lifelong" Republican, why is his team made up of only democrat lawyers? Don't you find his choice of attorneys a little puzzling for a "lifelong" Republican? JP | |||
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Two points: he hired the best white collar, computer crime, and Russian mob background people he could find. They are all Ivy League and white shoe law firm types in and out of govt. they aren’t calling the shots, Mueller is. If it’s relevant that they gave money to Dems over the years, why is is not relevant that the guys running the investigation give to GOP. Double standard? Second, FBI/DOJ rules make political affiliation a private matter that cannot be considered for hiring/firing. the idea that prosecutors can’t have political beliefs separate from their jobs is ludicrous. Why would Trump appoint a Rosenstein if he was some crazy liberal in The Deep State? It’s just silly. Here they are: http://www.businessinsider.com...investigation-2017-6 Conan! What is best in life? Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
I’ve not read of those guys and gals giving to the GOP. Any details? The DOJ may make political afiliation a private matter not considered in hiring and firing, but the old boys network doesn’t and won’t, and that is where you get the senior non grunt jobs. I’m inclined to go along with Trey Gowdy who expresses confidence in the Mueller operation, but I confess I worry knowing the past of some of those guys, Weissman to name one. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| the truth will set you free |
Newt Gingrich also praised Mueller first week out. I’m talking about Rosenstein and Mueller being GOP guys and giving to GOP. Both were appointed by GOP presidents for various positions. I’m not claiming the lower level guys gave to GOP though that article above says some of them gave to both Dems and GOP. I just think Mueller is above board. Bronze Star combat vet, FBI director 12 years, praised by Dems and Republicans, reputation for being honest and ethical as Newt said two days after his appointment. personally, it doesn’t surprise me the lower level people are Dems as Washington white shoe law firms are nothing but Dems and Ivy leaguers. But, by reputation, these are the same folks prosecuting mobsters, Al Queda, and Enron crooks. If we trust them for that, I give them benefit of the doubt. Sad thing is Putin is laughing at us whether Trump campaign worked with him or not. Conan! What is best in life? Conan: To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentation of the women. | |||
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| I believe in the principle of Due Process |
Ahh, that’s what gives me pause. I don’t know how much you have read about the Enron prosecutions. From what I read, the bad guys were at DOJ. Sure, the top guys at Enron, Fastow, Skilling, were complete thieves, but the prosecution of the folks at Merrill Lynch, the indictment of the accounting firm, a death penalty in effect, and other incidents, like Ted Stevens prosecution, are very disquieting. I suggest “A License to Lie” by Sidney Powell. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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| wishing we were congress |
You come into a group that has been studying the "Russian collusion" fiasco for almost 2 years, and you sling insults right and left with your only basis being your opinion that Mueller and Rosenstein are great guys. But I will take your advice to wait and see. You won't deter us that can see the broad outlines of this conspiracy, and we won't change your mind either. If you did wish to have a civil and thoughtful dialog though, a good place to start would be what Sen Grassley has reported regarding the FISA warrant on Carter Page. If you can't acknowledge that the FBI presented a totally false argument to the FISC court, then you are are not willing to seek the truth. | |||
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Per Wikipedia's Rosenstein entry: "He is a registered Republican, although no records exist of his voting records or financial contributions to Republican politicians." From everything I have read and researched, Mueller is supposedly a registered Republican but there are no records confirming this nor any records of donations to Republicans. What I can see on both Rosenstein and Mueeler is that they are both long time swamp dwellers. | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
Yep, and golly gee they ALL just HAPPEN to be Hillary and Obama supporting types. Yeah, right. 
Not to one of our resident Democrats who just outed himself here... | |||
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Lets say for now that Rod Rosenstein can form his own opinions without his wife's help. Many of us do the same. I suspect he's an honorable person. You are left with a crapload too many toplevel lying thieving FBI and other dept agents still there. We haven't even started to learn the depths of it and Mueller doesn't seem to care. McCabe may have "resigned" (thanks to the inspector general not to Mueller) but we are left with Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, Bruce Orr and his wife, etc etc. Long overdue to clean out the swamp. It's maxed out total bullshit in DC, we all see it ilikefirearms, even if you don't. It's so wrong on many levels and their attacks on the President are fu*ed up bullshit. | |||
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