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I’d like to install soft close drawer rails on my kitchen drawers. Is it difficult to change out the standard? What information do I need to know to get the right size and type. Do not send me to a heaven where there are no dogs. Step Up or Stand Aside: Support the Troops ! Expectations are premeditated disappointments. | ||
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The sets that I have swapped out had mounted to the drawer from the bottom. The older set mounted to the sides of the drawer. They are a bit wider than the old hardware. They aren't that bad when retrofitting, but I had to drill mounting holes in the drawer for the pins in the rails to clip to. Went at a rate about 15 minutes each plus swapping the knobs on the front while doing so. | |||
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You need to know: 1. Bottom or side mount on existing slides 2. Depth of drawer (length of existing slides) 3. If side mount, what is distance between the cabinet and the outside side of the drawer? Usually 1/2 inch is standard. 4. Full extension or less? Rockler sells nice Blum hardware for both. The bottom mount is more expensive. You can probably find cheap Chinese knock-offs on Amazon. _________________________ “Remember, remember the fifth of November!" | |||
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You might be able to add a soft close module to your existing hardware. | |||
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Quit staring at my wife's Butt |
cannot be done using blum, grass, or any of the other major brands as the drawer configuration is different, you can get some made by accuride that have a soft close full extension module set up for 1/2 inch clearance drawers but they dont work well because everything has to be in perfect alignment. I have been building cabinets for 35 years. in case you are wondering. here are some cheap ones that fit on 1/2 clearance sides I would never install them on anything I build just too many issues with them. blum are the best but you will need to have all new drawers made as the side clearance is measured from the inside of the drawers and not the outside, and length of drawers are different then standard, for example a typical 1/2 side drawer in a kitchen is 22 inches deep, soft close drawers from the blum are 21 inches deep and they attach with a 6mm hole from the back of the drawer in a precise location. https://www.cabinetparts.com/p...ntent=All%20Products https://www.bing.com/videos/se...iew=detail&FORM=VIRE https://www.bing.com/videos/se...iew=detail&FORM=VIRE | |||
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^^^^^^ Go with this guy's suggestions. | |||
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The BluMotion slides are very nice, very expensive, and very finicky to install if you're not someone that's 'very' familiar with them. I've installed them a couple times on furniture I've built and they're a PITA to get just right. On the flip side, I can install maybe five sets of basic KV slow close slides in the same amount of time it takes me to install one pair of BluMotion slides. For me, I'll continue to go with the KV's for cabinet applications given their price and simplicity, and the Blum's for more high end furniture applications. XLT, have you ever used a basic full extension slide and recessed it into the side of the drawer to better hide it and minimize gaps in drawer to cabinet spacing? I've done this a few times with 3/4" drawers I've built and it really helps hide the slides when they're sitting in the cabinet closed. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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Thanks. I don’t want to create issues and building new drawers is cost prohibitive for the want. I’ll check the videos. Do not send me to a heaven where there are no dogs. Step Up or Stand Aside: Support the Troops ! Expectations are premeditated disappointments. | |||
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XLT, do you ever use the Kreg drawer slide jigs? Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency. Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first | |||
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Can't help on retrofits, but I recently had new cabinets installed, the slow close doors and drawers are pretty awesome. My 60 year old ones made a bunch of noise opening and closing them. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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| Quit staring at my wife's Butt |
No I have a Busellato cnc machining center that locates all the holes in the side panels, so after assembly I just hang the hardware. Most of those jigs are made for the diy. | |||
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| Quit staring at my wife's Butt |
I can install the blum slides in less then a minute having all the holes bored on the cnc and having everything set up takes all the issues away. 2 locking devices on the bottoms of the drawers, 3 system screws on each slide, toss the drawer in and they are always in perfect alignment, these are not high production type cabinets all custom running thru a well oiled system. question, No I have not recessed the slides. | |||
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That was not my experience at all. Granted I am no professional cabinet maker. I made 2 cabinets with 15 drawers total. They were so much better than the other slides I had installed up to that point. They were spendy but in my opinion were well worth the money just for how simple they were to install. I made my own jig for for the locks on the bottom of the drawers. "We've done four already, but now we're steady..." | |||
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After much research and talking with local folks, this won’t be happening, cost to benefit. Thanks! Do not send me to a heaven where there are no dogs. Step Up or Stand Aside: Support the Troops ! Expectations are premeditated disappointments. | |||
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ME: I want self closing drawers and doors. Cabinet guy: LOL! you mean SOFT close? ME: NO, self closing... my wife seems to open them just fine. It's closing them that she struggles with.  Collecting dust. | |||
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I just added soft close door and draw fixtures to my kitchen and 2 baths. The door fixtures were easy and well worth the effort. The drawer slides were a major project. I would not do these again. My old slides were fastened to the front of the cabinets and had a plastic keeper in the back. I had to shim out with 3/4" plywood spacers on the sides of the cabinets. Then I fine tuned with washers. Never again. Mike I'm sorry if I hurt you feelings when I called you stupid - I thought you already knew - Unknown ................................... When you have no future, you live in the past. " Sycamore Row" by John Grisham | |||
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I call unfair advantage.  When I installed a few pair of these I used the templates provided, a hand drill and a jigsaw to notch the back of the boxes. I like your way much better, but since I'm short of both space and money, I doubt I'll be adding a CNC machine anytime soon.Each to their own. Glad you found them easy to install. Like I noted, I think they are superior to side mount slides on several levels, but I found them very finicky to install. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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