well its cost the airline more than a few bucks, and the ins. company
except for the costs involved , what a way to go.
taking other peoples stuff is just as wrong as wrong can be.
Safety, Situational Awareness and proficiency.
Neck Ties, Hats and ammo brass, Never ,ever touch'em w/o asking first
August 14, 2018, 01:29 PM
Ishootsometimes
Don't you get it. Guy clearly needed help. My God he had a mom and dad i imagine. Plane was an ends to a means.
August 14, 2018, 02:48 PM
sns3guppy
He got help. An island broke his fall.
You don't get it.
He carefully planned out and trained and prepared for this event.
So did the 09/11 hijackers.
They needed help, too, but it's nothing 5.56 couldn't have handled.
August 14, 2018, 02:56 PM
RAMIUS
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy: He got help. An island broke his fall.
You don't get it.
He carefully planned out and trained and prepared for this event.
So did the 09/11 hijackers.
They needed help, too, but it's nothing 5.56 couldn't have handled.
There's a slight difference...if only I could put my finger on it...
August 14, 2018, 03:01 PM
Jimbo54
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy: He got help. An island broke his fall.
You don't get it.
He carefully planned out and trained and prepared for this event.
So did the 09/11 hijackers.
They needed help, too, but it's nothing 5.56 couldn't have handled.
Uh...you don't see a difference between terrorists killing 3,000 people and 1 guy committing suicide? Really?
Jim
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August 14, 2018, 03:16 PM
Phantom229
quote:
Originally posted by RAMIUS:
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy: He got help. An island broke his fall.
You don't get it.
He carefully planned out and trained and prepared for this event.
So did the 09/11 hijackers.
They needed help, too, but it's nothing 5.56 couldn't have handled.
There's a slight difference...if only I could put my finger on it...
Yeah...sit in a stadium with 45,000 other people and hear about a man stealing an airplane and going wherever the hell he wants and tell me there's only a slight difference.
Situation awareness is defined as a continuous extraction of environmental information, integration of this information with previous knowledge to form a coherent mental picture in directing further perception and anticipating future events. Simply put, situational awareness mean knowing what is going on around you.
August 14, 2018, 04:11 PM
sns3guppy
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo54:
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy: He got help. An island broke his fall.
You don't get it.
He carefully planned out and trained and prepared for this event.
So did the 09/11 hijackers.
They needed help, too, but it's nothing 5.56 couldn't have handled.
Uh...you don't see a difference between terrorists killing 3,000 people and 1 guy committing suicide? Really?
Jim
No.
The damage done by the 1911 terrorists wasn't the damage to the twin towers; it was far more extensive than that. Their goal was terror. They shut down the most advanced airspace system in the world. The ground transit to a halt, changed the face of intra and interstate travel, and caused billions of dollars in damage.
The jackwad in the Dash 8 didn't actually kill anyone, but killing others isn't necessary to cause panic or terror.
The notion that this was simply a suicide is simplistic and wrong. This went far beyond a suicide and placed tens of thousands in jeopardy.
August 14, 2018, 04:30 PM
Ishootsometimes
Sns3guppy. He clearly hit the land to kill himself. Never, ever involved another human. Maybe on take off but, I can see he got that going all right.
Compassion it's free give it.
August 14, 2018, 06:33 PM
sns3guppy
It it painful to be that naive, or is ignorance really bliss?
August 14, 2018, 07:05 PM
4MUL8R
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy: It it painful to be that naive, or is ignorance really bliss?
Is it really necessary to be so dismissive of another's opinion? In one question you succeed in calling someone naive or ignorant. Would you say this to a person face-to-face?
------- Trying to simplify my life...
August 14, 2018, 10:47 PM
slosig
As someone who sat through the fallout from 9/11 with a whole lot of frustration, and this as someone who doesn’t use my ATP or CFI certificates to earn a living, I think I understand at least some of sns3guppy’s anger at this individual and fear of the coming fallout in terms of government response. I’m not as angry as he appears to be, and I do have some compassion for the individual who offed himself. However, I’d be a lot happier if he’d chosen a method with less impact on others.
August 14, 2018, 11:14 PM
DMF
quote:
Originally posted by sns3guppy: The damage done by the 1911 terrorists . . .
I hate the 1911 terrorists too. They've done a lot damage.
For example:
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"War is the remedy that our enemies have chosen, and I say let us give them all they want." - William Tecumseh Sherman
August 14, 2018, 11:43 PM
sns3guppy
quote:
Originally posted by 4MUL8R: Would you say this to a person face-to-face?
Yes, of course.
August 15, 2018, 03:25 AM
medic451
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist"
August 15, 2018, 06:51 AM
Balzé Halzé
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August 15, 2018, 09:00 PM
medic451
God bless the internet...
"I won't be wronged, I won't be insulted, and I won't be laid a hand on. I don't do these things to other people and I require the same from them." - John Wayne in "The Shootist"
August 20, 2018, 05:30 AM
911Boss
What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???
August 20, 2018, 06:37 AM
MikeinNC
^^^ that's some funny shit
You should put it in the funny memes thread
"Violence, naked force, has settled more issues in history than has any other factor.” Robert A. Heinlein
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March 08, 2019, 12:34 AM
kkina
Remember the stolen Dash 8 from last August? TheFlightChannel just put up a great simulator video dramaticizing the flight.