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I'm not sure how accurate these are, but I'm really surprised they published the chart. Of course, it pretty much confirms what we all knew already. The article itself seems to ignore the information in the chart. I wonder if "Assault by gun" includes people shot by someone in self-defense. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...r-BBKGdMY?li=BBnb7Kz One that did surprise me is that the average American is more likely to be killed by law enforcement than they are by an accidental shooting or a mass shooting. I'm sure most of those are justified shootings. ------------------------------ "They who would give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin "So this is how liberty dies; with thunderous applause." - Senator Amidala (Star Wars III: Revenge of the Sith) | ||
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Here is another..... I believe this came to me from a correspondent who got it from Faceplant, but it has been removed.
It’s just statistics, of course. Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Alabama really only had one murder? Seems fishy. | |||
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Would be handy to have a print copy. Need to confirm sources. | |||
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Here's another source JALLEN... http://www.conservativerights.net/facts-gun-deaths/ | |||
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Also, per Ted Nugent Facebook... https://www.facebook.com/tednu...ts/10154772622887297 Haven't found other supporting sources. | |||
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Some of those stats seem off... From the FBI UCR Total Gun related Homicides in 2016 (last full year data) about 11,000 https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-t...ide-data-table-4.xls Justifiable Homicide Law Enforcement typically about 450 per year https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-t...ide-data-table-5.xls By Citizen avg 300 p/year https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-t...ide-data-table-6.xls ____________________________ peakperformanceshooting.com | |||
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I can't trust the information in the chart. If even one "cause of death" listed is wrong, than I have to believe that all causes are wrong. Since not a single person (dinosaur yes, person no) was killed by an asteroid (hemorrhoid maybe!) strike, then this entire chart of slanted. Even a small meteorite hasn't been proven to have killed anyone. So there is not enough data to come up with any odds of dying from an Asteroid strike. It shouldn't be on the list! An if you discount all the diseases and accidents on the chart above "Assault be gun", that leaves; 1. Stroke 2. Drugs 3. Poisoning 4. Suicide 5. Alcohol 6. Murder These are listed to be far more recurring than assault by gun. I think that these should be banned before any new gun law. I love it here! My Gun collection: Too many to list. Lets just say that the zombies should look elsewhere. | |||
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Sure is. Can't remember a night that the Birmingham news is not reporting a killing or two. I live north of there in a quiet rural county and we have already had a dozen or more killings, mostly domestic related. Freedom comes from the will of man. In America it is guaranteed by the 2nd Amendment | |||
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Agree. Lies, damn lies, and all that. Bat data in = bad data out. ______________________________________________________ Often times a very small man can cast a very large shadow | |||
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With guns? Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me. When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown | |||
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Amaze your friends. Baffle your progressive neighbors. Show them this real-time data on cause of death: http://www.romans322.com/daily...-rate-statistics.php You can't truly call yourself "peaceful" unless you are capable of great violence. If you're not capable of great violence, you're not peaceful, you're harmless. NRA Benefactor/Patriot Member | |||
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![]() There are a lot of things about that chart that are head-scratchers. Like, what's the difference between death by "Any accident" and death by "Any injury"? I suspect the overlap between those two is fairly large. Same thing with "Any motor vehicle incident", "Falling", "Riding inside a car, van, or truck", "Pedestrian", "Motorcycle", "Airplane/boat/spaceship incidents", "Bicycling", "Accidental gunshot", "Bus/Train/Streetcar" -- it feels like somebody took a lot of liberties in how the stats were correlated for this one. Just as in most other similar "studies". | |||
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anecdotely I have to call BS, Assaults by firearm kill about 13,000 people in the US each year, which translates to a roughly 1-in-315 lifetime chance of death from gun violence. That's about 50% more likely than the lifetime risk of dying while riding inside a car, truck, or van. It's also more than 10 times as high as dying from any force of nature, such as a hurricane, tornado, earthquake, flood, or lightning strike. this just isn't my experience.... | |||
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Have you looked into the breakdown of those 13,000 deaths (by the way it's not "deaths by firearm assault or gun violence" it's death by homicide which means one human killed another... including self defense and justifiable circumstances)? Hint: read the posts above yours. Moreover, more people die in vehicles than by firearms so you might want to double check your data before you say things like a gun is 50% more likely to kill someone than a vehicle. | |||
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I call total BS. I dispute the 1 in 315 odds. We have over 315 million people in this country. But lets just use 315M for easy math. Assuming 0 population growth, we would see 1/315 people or killed by a gun or 1M every year. Feel free to correct me if my math is off. "You know, Scotland has its own martial arts. Yeah, it's called Fuck You. It's mostly just head butting and then kicking people when they're on the ground." - Charlie MacKenzie (Mike Myers in "So I Married an Axe Murderer") | |||
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^^^^^^^ Lifetime risk, not annual. | |||
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