I can't decide if it's gaslighting or I just don't remember. I guess that's how gaslighting works because I sure am questioning my own reality in this case.[/QUOTE]

Walk away. Unless this is someone very important in your life you don’t need this shit. No one does.

It behooves all men to learn and understand Cluster B personality disorders - Narcissistic, Borderline, Histrionic, and Antisocial - and how they manifest in women. Also good to understand how they manifest in men, but provided you exclusively have romantic relationships with women, it is more important to understand them first.

For disordered individuals, and those with tendencies towards disordered thinking, feelings make facts. They engage in emotional reasoning and have distorted memories not based on facts but based on justifying their emotions. Many do not realize they are doing this, but for some it is intentional manipulation.

When I was still married, my ex said more than once that I must have thought something and never said it out loud, and that I do that a lot. I tend to be outspoken and extroverted, and no one else in my life has ever said anything like that about me.

I also know my memory was a lot more accurate than my ex's, for almost everything.

So to some degree I cannot be gaslighted. No one can convince me of things that did not happen, or that I said words I didn't, or didn't say words that I did.

Due to subsequent relationships after my divorce, I have had to learn a lot more about this stuff. And when I see emotional reasoning, projection, and attempts at gaslighting, I call it out and make it clear that I will not tolerate it.

Makes you feel like Jordan Peterson in a hostile interview, restating exactly what you said, and deflecting accusations that you said something you didn't.

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