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I love seeing this, should be pretty cool to visit where the United States Marines were born. Unfortunately it can't be on the precise spot of the original as that street was demolished and now lies under I-95:

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Marines rejoice: Tun Tavern replica planned for Philadelphia

The Tun Tavern replica is expected to be completed in 2025.
BY JEFF SCHOGOL | PUBLISHED APR 30, 2024 2:54 PM EDT
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Tun Tavern has a religious significance for Marines, revered in Marine Corps lore alongside the Halls of Montezuma and knife hands.

The Marine Corps was founded at the tavern in 1775, before the United States had officially declared its independence from Great Britain. Countless generations of Marines have bragged ever since that the Corps was born in a bar.

Now a non-profit group plans to build a reproduction of Tun Tavern, which burned down in 1781. The Tun Tavern Legacy Foundation, Inc. recently announced that it had purchased land on which to build a replica of the Marine Corps’ birthplace, which will be located around 250 yards from the original Tun Tavern site on the Philadelphia waterfront.

The Philadelphia Inquirer first reported about the latest efforts to recreate Tun Tavern, which is also the site where John Adams wrote the Navy’s organizing document.

A groundbreaking ceremony has been planned for November, and the Tun Tavern replica is expected to open in 2025 to coincide with the Navy and Marine Corps’ 250th Homecoming Celebration, a Tun Tavern Legacy Foundation news release says.

“With the Tun Tavern Legacy Foundation leading the way, Marines of past, present and future will have their rightful gathering spot in the very city where the Marine Corps was formed,” retired Lt. Gen. Charles G. Chiarotti, president and CEO of the Marine Corps Association, said in a release. “The Marine Corps Association is a major supporter of bringing the Tun back for all to enjoy.”

When it opens, the replica will serve as a functioning tavern that offers customers food and refreshments influenced by Philadelphia’s colonial period. The tavern will also include historical documents, educational exhibits, and special events, a foundation news release says.

The project is expected to generate an initial economic impact of $16.1 million along with $34.6 million annually.

“Several attempts have been made to rebuild the Tun Tavern since it was razed in 1781, however, this is the first time that a coalition of members of the organizations with a heritage at the Tun are joining together in the effort,” a news release from the group says. “The Foundation aims to replicate the architecture, materials, and layout as it existed in the 1770s to offer a homecoming place for the millions of Americans who can trace their organization’s lineage back to this one tavern.”

The site of the original Tun Tavern is identified by a historical marker in Philadelphia’s Old City. The establishment served as the Marine Corps’ first recruiting headquarters, where men were offered just over six dollars a month to enlist, according to the Navy. The nation’s first Marines received a daily ration of a pound each of bread, beef, or pork, potatoes or turnips, or half a pound of peas, and half a pint of rum.

“The Tun is revered and celebrated not only in U.S. Marine history but in five other organizations’ histories that pre-date the Continental Marines connection, and we will honor it with a deep appreciation for its historical significance to Philadelphia and America,” Patrick Dailey, the foundation’s president and founder, said in a news release. “Once we are operational, all profits will be donated in perpetuity to support the causes of the organizations founded at The Tun.”


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SEMPER FIDELS, my fellow Marines! As cool as this may be, I don’t ever see myself visiting, and for that matter, Philadelphia.


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I would make that road trip. I would love to see it when it's done.
 
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I would go to see the original if it existed, but a newly constructed copy at a different location?
Not likely.



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I would go to see the original if it existed, but a newly constructed copy at a different location?
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The street it existed on lies underneath I-95

The new one will be approximately 250 yards from the site of the original. This was right on Philadelphia’s Delaware riverfront which has changed radically since 1681. There’s a street called Water Street that was named because it was wharves and docks and waterfront. It’s now blocks from the Delaware.


 
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A bar specifically created as a historical destination for Marines of all ages to get loaded.

Philadelphia may live to regret that decision. Razz


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What Happened to the Original Tun Tavern, Birthplace of the Marine Corps

Military.com | By Blake Stilwell
Published November 09, 2021


Sketch of Tun Tavern during the Revolutionary War. (National Archives)

As every United States Marine can tell you, the Corps was birthed in a Philadelphia bar called Tun Tavern in 1775. Although that is a true statement, ye olde drinking establishments were a lot different from the watering holes we know today.

Sadly for the Marine Corps and its veterans, local residents of Philadelphia don’t have thousands of celebrating Marines packing the streets of the neighborhood every November 10th. All that remains of the historic birthplace is a marker where Tun Tavern once sat. Its original site near the waterfront is now occupied by Interstate 95.

Almost as old as the English presence in the New World, Tun Tavern was founded just three years after the city of Philadelphia itself. It was founded in 1685 by local Samuel Carpenter (Philadelphia was founded in 1682; the first English settlement was founded in 1607) on the corner of Tun Alley and Water Street, the city's first brew house -- and among the earliest in the North American colonies.

Before long, everyone around knew that the Tun Tavern was serving the best beers in Philadelphia, and it kept that reputation for more than a century. As a result, it became an important meeting place for city and colonial officials and, eventually, for revolutionaries.

With the turn of the 18th century, prominent Philadelphians and society members began holding official meetings at Tun Tavern. Charitable organizations like the St. George's Society and St. Andrew's Society, groups that helped needy colonists get on their feet, began meeting there. It even became a Grand Lodge for Philadelphia Freemasons.

It is now recognized as the birthplace for Freemasonry in what would become the United States, and home to the Grand Lodge of Pennsylvania. Benjamin Franklin was the third grand master of the lodge. So along with the Marine Corps, America's 2.3 million Freemasons can celebrate Tun Tavern as their origin.

Eventually, the owners of Tun Tavern began to recognize the importance of having some food to go along with their beverage offerings and expanded the tavern to include a restaurant, Peggy Mullan's Red Hot Beef Steak Club, by the 1740s. America's founding fathers were known to indulge in both and met there while in Philadelphia.

With its quality food and drink renowned across the colonies, when it came time for the Continental Congresses to meet in Philadelphia in the 1770s, they often found themselves at Tun Tavern, planning for the next steps in shaking off the yoke of the British crown in America. After all, Franklin had been organizing militias there to fight off American Indian tribes for decades by then. Why wouldn't it work for pesky European regents?

On top of drafting militiamen, in October 1775, a seven-person committee -- led by John Adams -- met at Tun Tavern to draft articles of war and commission a new naval fleet. But something was still missing from the colonies' new armed forces: Marines.

On Nov. 10, 1775, an innkeeper (and former Quaker) named Samuel Nicholas was assigned by the Continental Congress to raise the first two battalions of Marines, so he did it at -- where else? -- Tun Tavern. Nicholas was given the rank of captain and appointed commandant of the new Continental Marines. Robert Mullan, son of Peggy (of Red Hot Beef Steak fame), was the official proprietor of Tun Tavern and was dubbed "Chief Marine Recruiter."

Nicholas and Mullan recruited skilled marksmen to become the first Marines from a Conestoga wagon outside of the tavern. The first-ever company of Marines consisted of 100 Rhode Islanders. They, like the rest of the new Marine Corps, were posted aboard Continental Navy ships.

Throughout the Revolutionary War, Philadelphia was a contested city. It was the second-largest port city in the British Empire (after London itself). As capital of the rebel country, it was the target of the British from early in the war. The British held the city until their defeat at Saratoga, New York.

After France joined the war on the American side, Gen. William Howe resigned in Philadelphia in 1778, and his successor, Sir Henry Clinton, abandoned control of the city in favor of protecting the Eastern coast from a French attack. Tun Tavern stood the whole time, even as fighting raged in the streets.

In 1781, Tun Tavern burned down, a disastrous end to an illustrious and historic site and was never rebuilt. Marines visiting the Society Hill area of the city can visit the historical marker at 175 Front St. and learn more about its history at the nearby New Hall Military Museum.

For a taste of Tun Tavern, Marines and military history buffs can visit the U.S. National Museum of the Marine Corps' Tun Tavern in Virginia, which is decorated in the colonial style.


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I would go to see the original if it existed, but a newly constructed copy at a different location?
Not likely.

It was torn down in 1781 (before the Treaty of Paris and before the Constitution) but, out of sheer principle you're refusing to see this recreation because its not the ACTUAL one, in the ACTUAL location?
 
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I would go to see the original if it existed, but a newly constructed copy at a different location?
Not likely.

It was torn down in 1781 (before the Treaty of Paris and before the Constitution) but, out of sheer principle you're refusing to see this recreation because its not the ACTUAL one, in the ACTUAL location?

Yes, because a facsimile just doesn't interest me.



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As the article mentioned, there is a "Tun Tavern" at the National Museum of the Marine Corps in Quantico. I've had a beer there before, and will again when I revisit next month.

Having a version in Philly? I wouldn't go there just to go there, but I might stop in if I was visiting there anyways (as unlikely as it would be).




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I too have been to the one inside the Museum, wife and I had lunch. My home in Dumfries, Va. is only a few minutes away from the Museum.

I might add that the Museum is well worth the visit approximately 15 visits for me. Semper Fi
 
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