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As a firefighter I am sickened by this "Captain" selling guns illegally. I feel we have an obligation to ensure guns aren't falling into the hands of felons and criminals. Thanks to everyone ensuring you are selling to other CCW holders in your states or shipping through FFL's. We all play a small part.


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A Kansas City Fire Department captain has been charged with illegally selling numerous firearms to people he allegedly knew were felons.


I'm generally not an advocate for background checks on second hand gun transactions, but Selling to known felons is a little different than "forgetting" to do a background check when selling that old P220 in your collection to your old hunting buddy.

I hope this guy gets tossed in jail for a very long time.


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As a firefighter I am sickened by this "Captain" selling guns illegally. I feel we have an obligation to ensure guns aren't falling into the hands of felons and criminals. Thanks to everyone ensuring you are selling to other CCW holders in your states or shipping through FFL's. We all play a small part.

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Oct. 05 -- KANSAS CITY, MO -- A Kansas City Fire Department captain has been charged with illegally selling numerous firearms to people he allegedly knew were felons.

James Samuels, 52, is charged in U.S. District Court in Kansas City with sale of a firearm and ammunition to a prohibited person and knowingly transferring a firearm for use in a crime of violence.

In several cases, Samuels allegedly sold guns to people who told him they were going to use them to shoot people, according to the allegations.

Federal prosecutors say Samuels bought 77 firearms over the last several years and funneled some of them to a co-conspirator who then reported them stolen.

“Those who supply dangerous firearms to violent criminals are as much a threat to the safety of our community as the criminals themselves,” Timothy Garrison, U.S. attorney for Western Missouri, said in a written statement. “We will aggressively prosecute not only those who illegally possess firearms, but also the suppliers whose criminal conduct enables them to arm themselves with these weapons.”

The charges were filed under seal Monday and were made public Friday after Samuels was arrested and appeared in court.

The charges stem from the Sept. 5 sale of an AR-15 semi-automatic rifle to person working as a confidential informant for the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, according to court documents. But the affidavit filed in support of the charges alleges that Samuels had been involved in illegally dealing firearms since 2014.

Federal prosecutors said that Samuels purchased mostly handguns over the last several years and that six of those weapons had been used in other crimes.

One of those crimes was the July 2016 homicide of Alvino Crawford. A .380-caliber handgun bought by Samuels was used in the crime, according to prosecutors.

“At the center of ATF’s mission of reducing firearms-related violence is investigating and bringing to justice those supplying firearms to the violent, criminal elements of our communities,” said George Lauder, special agent in charge of the ATF office in Kansas City. “Stopping this flow of firearms will continue to be our focus as we work to make our neighborhoods safer places to live.”

The ATF investigation began in January after an unnamed co-conspirator had reported multiple times since 2014 that guns had been stolen from him. Many of those guns were initially purchased by Samuels, according to the allegations, including one that was later linked to Crawford’s homicide.

ATF investigators began contacting licensed dealers where Samuels had purchased guns.

One told the investigators that Samuels had purchased many handguns from his business, and he told the ATF that he knew Samuels was acting as a firearms dealer without a license.

“The employee stated that he told Samuels he was playing with fire and was going to get burned,” according to the affidavit.

Investigators contacted a number of other dealers who had transacted business with Samuels.

Kansas City Fire Department officials said Samuels had worked for the department for 20-plus years, most recently as a captain, but they declined further comment.

Samuels is being held in custody pending an Oct. 11 court appearance. Prosecutors are seeking to have him detained without bond while the case is pending.

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Thanks Q! Should have done that the first time.


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The fire captain happens to be a black guy. Most black men don't make a third of what this guy does, or did. Most persons who start with little or nothing are so appreciative to be making a good living, they would never jeopardize it. But this guy throws it away, like it is nothing. One cannot get any stupider.


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In that article the complaints and charges feel a little "fluffed up" to me, but I'm not nearly as smart as I used to be.

We do still have that presumption of innocence thing though, right?
 
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In that article the complaints and charges feel a little "fluffed up" to me, but I'm not nearly as smart as I used to be.

We do still have that presumption of innocence thing though, right?


good points. Let the man have his day(s) in court and take it from there.


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We do still have that presumption of innocence thing though, right?


Only when it’s your own guy or gal who’s accused Smile
 
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Thanks to everyone ensuring you are selling to other CCW holders in your states or shipping through FFL's. We all play a small part.

I always find it ironic that we complain about our 2A rights and cry when the government tries to add more restrictive laws yet we add our own rules. At least where I live, for private sales a “CCW” is not required so why should I ask for one? It does not ensure the firearm will not make its way into a crime.

I understand the principle behind doing that. I will never knowingly sell to a prohibited person nor will I add my own rules when selling. I ask questions to find out if they are prohibited and go from there. I know there are plenty of people who like to see and even make copies of ID’s when selling privately but if you are going to that extent do a private party transfer through an FFL.
 
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