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"General Motors announced yesterday it would transition much of its fleet to vehicles with zero tailpipe emissions by 2035. The target, which would shift the vast majority of GM's fleet to all-electric within 15 years, is one of the most aggressive plans announced by traditional auto manufacturers to date."


GM following VW. They abandoned its program once already. They could have been the global leader already

This is exactly what Musk wants to happen. He wants the competition and fundamentally change the industry. He’s stated it more than once


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7 Electric Vehicle (EV) Stocks That Have Real Juice in 2021

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The biggest win for automakers by switching to EV is the elimination of CARB/EPA annual qualifications for power plants. Each year the companies get to bring all their engines into testing for compliance with CARB, which means if you meet CARB you exceed EPA.

Doing so costs lots of money, with ICE engines it's a constant annual fee/toll they pay the State of CA for the right to sell them in the state. Replace them with an EV and boom those tests no longer are needed.

Similar to how CA tries to extort Glock, Sig etc for more money to register new firearms each time they make a new model. Simple, just don't spend the extortion fees to let CA people have the new model.. Keep the old one...

Sill, once its done CARB will find some kind of extortion fee for battery gasses, or plastic fumes, whatever they can, once the millions for engine qualification fee income ceases to exist.
 
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clearly, we need to change 100% to rainbow unicorn fart power to do our part...



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The biggest win for automakers by switching to EV is the elimination of CARB/EPA annual qualifications for power plants. Each year the companies get to bring all their engines into testing for compliance with CARB, which means if you meet CARB you exceed EPA.

Doing so costs lots of money, with ICE engines it's a constant annual fee/toll they pay the State of CA for the right to sell them in the state. Replace them with an EV and boom those tests no longer are needed.

Similar to how CA tries to extort Glock, Sig etc for more money to register new firearms each time they make a new model. Simple, just don't spend the extortion fees to let CA people have the new model.. Keep the old one...

Sill, once its done CARB will find some kind of extortion fee for battery gasses, or plastic fumes, whatever they can, once the millions for engine qualification fee income ceases to exist.
That's an almost insignificant factor since the EPA doesn't actually test very many vehicles/engines at all. Most people think the EPA tests all the vehicles/engines in the fleet but the reality is that they take the manufacturers word for it believe it or not and only test approximately 15% of the entire fleet of vehicles per year.

That's how Hyundai, Toyota, VW and others got busted a few years ago and fined massively. All the manufacturers give the EPA estimates on MPG and emissions since the EPA only allots approximately 8 of their nearly 14,000 employees to the auto industry.
 
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