If you don't believe that the media is in full control of the liberal left, this is another piece of evidence for you.

There is no news anymore, it is just propaganda.

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Originally posted by brecaidra:
See, I'm surprised the media didn't spin this story to stir up a push for all guns being banned, not just the scary black assault rifles.

I wasn’t surprised in the least. If there’s anything I believe that the gun-grabbers have learned is to limit the extent of any particular goal. That became obvious to me decades ago before AR-type rifles were even available and the antigun targets du jour were so-called “Saturday Night Specials.” They were described as inexpensive, low quality, easily-concealed revolvers that were supposed to be the weapons of choice for the armed criminal. Serious efforts were made to ban handguns of a certain size, but either through ignorance or design it included models like S&W K-frame revolvers with 8 3/8 inch barrels. The NRA ran ads with full-sized depictions of the guns (and their prices) that ridiculed their inclusion in the ban attempts.

Despite the failure of the domestic bans the effort did nevertheless result in the ATF’s rulings (no legislation required) that limited many high quality imported guns. It wasn’t an unqualified success for the gun-grabbers, but I’m sure they looked at it as a better than nothing victory.

Today the targets are AR-type rifles, but that’s nothing new, and it has been partially successful. There was the “AWB” of 1994, and of course they are restricted or illegal in many individual cities and states. We can expect, therefore, that it will continue. Specific targets also include magazines and ammunition, both of which have had their successes.

And why is targeting specific guns a successful tactic? Because all too many gun owners are stunningly clueless about the process and ultimate goals. All someone has to do is say, “We’re not after all guns, just …,” and most people who don’t own that specific firearm think, “Whew! I’m safe, and don’t care about anyone else.” We saw a little of that right here not long ago in discussions about “bump stocks”: “I don’t want one, so go ahead and ban them.”

When AR-type rifles and others in that general category are ultimately legislated out of private ownership by various means, then something else will be targeted. That’s exactly what has happened in other countries, and will happen here because many gun owners believe that if they offer the sharks their feet, they’ll be satisfied with that and stop eating at that point.

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Originally posted by sigfreund:


I wasn’t surprised in the least. If there’s anything I believe that the gun-grabbers have learned is to limit the extent of any particular goal. That became obvious to me decades ago before AR-type rifles were even available and the antigun targets du jour were so-called “Saturday Night Specials.” They were described as inexpensive, low quality, easily-concealed revolvers that were supposed to be the weapons of choice for the armed criminal.

Great memory and analysis. I remember the outcome was poor people didn't have an affordable way to arm themselves.

The difference in coverage of this shooting is all about the weapons used. It doesn't fit the anti- narrative or the agenda, and pushing this one could have even back-fired on them because it would risk losing the "pro-gun" Fudds, who they think can be convinced to support "common-sense" gun laws. Start talking about banning revolvers and pump shotguns and they might even lose Joe Biden.

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Originally posted by NK402:
The other story that disappeared even quicker was the one about the armed school resource officer, who prevented mass casualties by confronting and shooting the would-be shooter. It supported the good guy with a gun stopping the bad guy with a gun theory. Can't have that.

That was in Dixon IL, about an hour northeast of me. Here's the latest article, focusing on Mom and the gun:

http://www.saukvalley.com/2018...torney-says/ajqte4w/

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Originally posted by Scoutmaster:
And unless and until liberals acknowledge such, they will never solve the problem. (But I am not sure liberals really want to solve the problem, they want to use the problem to justify serving themselves).

The very worst thing that could happen with regard to the Left's agenda to abolish the 2nd amendment would be for school shootings to stop.

The DON'T CARE about the students that are killed.

It's that simple.

They DO CARE about banning 'assault rifles'.

No other suggested methodology that would actually work is acceptable.

It's all too transparent.

Disarmament is the goal.

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Originally posted by bigwagon:
The difference in coverage of this shooting is all about the weapons used.

It also has to do with where this happened. This area ain't filled with privileged, liberal, easily influenced ignoramuses like those in Parkland. The people and kids in Santa Fe basically told the media to go pound sand.

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Originally posted by radioman:
But the dork I work with said, "I still don't think people should own assault rifles."

Idiots tried to ban assault rifles after the Boston Marathon bombing cuz you know "we have to do something"

I actually have seen some op-ed pieces in NYT/Wa Po stating we should still push for an AR/AWB because while it wouldn't have made a difference, it's still "something"

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Originally posted by ccmdfd:
I actually have seen some op-ed pieces in NYT/Wa Po stating we should still push for an AR/AWB because while it wouldn't have made a difference, it's still "something"

Oh, there’s nothing wrong with using any gun incident to target ARs regardless of how much relevance they have to each other. What surprises me is we don’t see the same calls for ARs to be banned after a knife or vehicle attack, but perhaps there are limits to how stupid they believe the public is. But they can continue the anti-AR drumbeat even if the guns were a revolver and shotgun because going after the ARs won’t upset the revolver and shotgun owners.