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for some reason this made the UK news...
August 07, 2025, 07:18 AM
tacfoleyfor some reason this made the UK news...
Ranch-seller multi-millionaire Asher Watkins killed by Cape Buffalo in an 'unprovoked attack'.
Now we can see it from the POV of the buffalo. 'I was just standing there, doing my buff stuff, when this dude sneaks up on me and points this thing at me. I recall another dude doing the same thing last year to my cuz', Lennie, and there was thumpin'HUGE noise, like a clap of thunder, y'know, and Lennie fell over, stone dead. Reckon that was NOT how THIS boy's story's goin' to end, so I chased up this guy while he was getting ready. Well, seems the rest is in the papers all over the place. Seems that some days you're the statue, and other, the pigeon, right?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...uffalo-stalking.htmlAugust 07, 2025, 07:36 AM
egregoreIn other news, the hunter who was killed by a lion has been identified as Claude Eaton.
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sigfreundI saw that elsewhere and although I have no objection to hunting for almost any purpose, it didn’t arouse any feelings of sympathy. It’s like any voluntary activity that involves potentially deadly dangers: You didn’t have to do it, and if you hadn’t the bad thing wouldn’t have happened.
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12131Hunter: Clever girl.
Buffalo: FAFO!
Porky Pig: That’s all folks!
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August 07, 2025, 07:47 AM
MikeinNCWonder what caliber he was gonna use? 375, 416?
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Sig2340The only sure way to stop a charging Cape Buffalo is to cancel its credit cards.
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August 07, 2025, 08:01 AM
egregore
"The Almighty, He put some livin' things on this earth so a man can eat." - Festus Haggen, Gunsmoke August 07, 2025, 09:15 AM
NOCkidI guess this is why they have earned the nickname "Black Death".
August 07, 2025, 09:43 AM
vinnybassThe perfunctory "Doing what he loved" comment is in order here.
I have no objection to hunting, however it seems pretty obvious to me there are many animals in Africa that can and will kill you.
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tacfoleyI guess this is why I've never seen a cuddly plush Cape Buffalo dolly.
Bears? Black/brown/polar - you choose.
Lions? Many.
Even dinosaurs and sharks.
But CBs?
Nope.
August 07, 2025, 09:53 AM
Sacramento JohnsonThe article refers to him as a "keen conservationist"; I call that nonsense. Just after that they mention the huge number of animals and birds he has killed over the years. Seems to me, he liked to just hunt and kill things.
No sympathy here and no great loss...
August 07, 2025, 10:03 AM
apprenticeIf it pays it stays. Licensed hunting is what keeps animals around in many places.
It isn't the prettiest truth, but when your species is more virus than anything else you don't do very many pretty things.
August 07, 2025, 08:29 PM
DennisMquote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
Wonder what caliber he was gonna use? 375, 416?
Slight tangent: I also wonder how many animals that size were taken with .303 British over the last century and some. My guess is: Many.
August 07, 2025, 11:12 PM
Dzozerquote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
Wonder what caliber he was gonna use? 375, 416?
He needed 20mm...
'veritas non verba magistri' August 08, 2025, 09:07 AM
229DAKquote:
Ranch-seller multi-millionaire Asher Watkins killed by Cape Buffalo in an 'unprovoked attack'.
Unprovoked? Was Watkins going to unleash an 'unprovoked' attack on the buffalo? What's good for the goose is good for the gander. FAFO. Who's the smarter species now, Asher?
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August 08, 2025, 11:41 AM
Rey HRHIn hindsight, he should have stuck with doves.
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August 08, 2025, 01:34 PM
egregorequote:
Slight tangent: I also wonder how many animals that size were taken with .303 British over the last century and some. My guess is: Many.
W.D.M. Bell made most of his over a thousand elephant kills with 7x57 Mauser.
"The Almighty, He put some livin' things on this earth so a man can eat." - Festus Haggen, Gunsmoke August 09, 2025, 04:09 PM
smschulzquote:
Originally posted by egregore:
In other news, the hunter who was killed by a lion has been identified as Claude Eaton.
Claude N. Eaton
August 10, 2025, 04:42 PM
wrightdquote:
Originally posted by DennisM:
quote:
Originally posted by MikeinNC:
Wonder what caliber he was gonna use? 375, 416?
Slight tangent: I also wonder how many animals that size were taken with .303 British over the last century and some. My guess is: Many.
Lots for sue. And many got mowed down before the beast expired.
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wrightdquote:
Originally posted by egregore:
quote:
Slight tangent: I also wonder how many animals that size were taken with .303 British over the last century and some. My guess is: Many.
W.D.M. Bell made most of his over a thousand elephant kills with 7x57 Mauser.
I have his book. He was the resident expert with the brain shot, with a long for caliber full metal jacket bullet, which is why he was so successful. There is a story where he ran into a tribe of men, and they were going to kill him. A group of zebra was close by, and he took some of them down running at 200 yds or something like that, and all of a sudden they changed their minds. I've never owned one but I think the 7mm Mauser is one of the classiest cartridges of all time, along with the 375 Holland. Between those two guns, you're well equipped for hunting pretty much anywhere on the face of the earth, notwithstanding specialists.
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