If I understand this correctly. States like CA and CO are actively creating laws to keep guns out of the hands of citizens while trying to put guns in the hands of illegals (non citizens). Other issues include being able to conduct background checks on these individuals and verifying their identities. Something doesn't sit well having illegals (non citizens) being able to arrest citizens.


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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/n...e-officers-rcna93493


Edited version of link:

As police departments struggle to recruit and retain officers, some look to a previously untapped pool of applicants to fill job vacancies.

States, including California and Colorado, have begun to pass laws that would permit noncitizens who are authorized to work in the U.S. to become police officers, while others, such as New Jersey, mull similar legislation. The measures make recipients of the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA, program eligible for law enforcement work.

Beneficiaries of the DACA program have historically been barred from holding jobs in law enforcement because of various provisions in state laws.

The DACA program, which provides protections against deportation for people who arrived in the United States without legal status before turning 16 and who have lived in the country continuously since at least 2007, has about 580,000 active recipients in the United States.

Before changing its law last year, California required that police officers, or peace officers, be U.S. citizens or permanent residents who were eligible for and applied for citizenship.

In Colorado, DACA recipients previously could not legally carry firearms. Colorado’s new measure, which was signed into law by Gov. Jared Polis in April, does away with that prohibition.

"It's a smart policy, especially with fewer and fewer people wanting to go into law enforcement," said Art Acevedo, the interim chief of police for the Aurora Police Department in Colorado, which has 71 open positions.

Supporters of similar measures have noted that noncitizens who are authorized to work in the U.S. can already serve in the military, making law enforcement work a natural extension.

Critics of such legislation, however, say careers in law enforcement should be reserved for U.S. citizens and that noncitizens should not be able to carry firearms or possess the power to arrest citizens.

Chapin Rose, a Republican member of the Illinois Senate, blasted the legislation that passed the state House and Senate but has not been signed into law, saying during a recent hearing that “there is a greater principle at stake.”

“It’s just a fundamentally bad idea,” he said during the hearing in May. “I don’t care where this individual is from. Australia — they should not be able to arrest a United States citizen on United States soil.”

Police departments across the country have been struggling to recruit and retain officers over the past several years.

California’s bill, SB 960, which was introduced in February 2022 and signed into law in September 2022, removed a provision in state law that said a person had to be a citizen to be a peace officer and replaced it with a requirement that peace officers be legally authorized to work in the U.S. It took effect on Jan. 1.

Skinner and Farrow both said that most lawmakers had been unaware of the decades-old provision before its removal. One of the biggest hesitations expressed by those who opposed the measure was over vetting the backgrounds of noncitizens, Farrow said, which he believed was a reasonable concern.

“We responded, basically, 'Yeah, that’s an issue,’” Farrow said. “And if we can’t prove identity and we can’t prove background and we don’t have enough information to make sure that the people that we’re hiring are people that would be good representatives of law enforcement, then they don’t get hired, just like anybody else.”

Insanity. So those who are not citizens have the ability to arrest citizens, they might have no way of knowing who these people really are but let them reap the benefits of the jobs. Seems like a great idea.

The easiest way to get officers that will be statists is this. Create officers who swear allegiance to the state, not to the Constitution.

Hmmm… Abuse the profession, demonize those doing the job, go after and prosecute cops who follow policy, make the job tougher than it needs to be, then cry when you have a hard time hiring to fill slots. Use this as an excuse to broaden the net. I’m sure it’s all coincidence.

Kind of like Mexico, you’ll have folks wearing the badge and be bought off by anyone with a few bucks. Sounds like a great plan. Curious to see this in action at work as it hasn’t touched us yet but I feel like when it does, those fookers won’t be treated well…

So how are these state laws neutering federal law? On a 4473, one has to be a citizen or an alien with an admission record number to purchase a firearm. Are DACA recipients considered to be legal to own a firearm?

Given that the leftist machine in charge does the bidding of the globalist traitors to law abiding humanity, I suspect the illegals to be armed will have waivers nullifying non-citizen status from the fed.

The violence towards said law abiding citizens will tick up and any retaliation towards the “police” will result in a crisis of right wing extremism (law abiding gun owners) targeting cops… you know, that thing Obama started with his thug children and their “right to resist”. The bastards might even make a nationalized police force a reality; when all law enforcement is run by big brother, look out.

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Originally posted by 2000Z-71:
So how are these state laws neutering federal law? On a 4473, one has to be a citizen or an alien with an admission record number to purchase a firearm. Are DACA recipients considered to be legal to own a firearm?

The gun will be dept. owned and will be issued and returned each shift.

I wanna make sure I get this right

people who got here by breaking the law, are now going to get jobs enforcing the law...

That's right

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Originally posted by jljones:
The easiest way to get officers that will be statists is this. Create officers who swear allegiance to the state, not to the Constitution.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

I wanna make sure I get this right

people who got here by breaking the law, are now going to get jobs enforcing the law...

Given that English is probably not their first language, and the culture that they have lived in is completely different from ours, how confident are we that they even understand the laws that they will be enforcing?

Yup, sounds like a pretty good plan to me.

Adding as an afterthought, the first encounter between one of these imported LEO's and a Sovereign Citizen would be something to behold.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:
I wanna make sure I get this right

people who got here by breaking the law, are now going to get jobs enforcing the law...

I'm not going to say I think they should have access to firearms, but just to clarify what DACA actually is:"Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals"

This is where the leftist try to pull at the heart-strings, by definition they were brought here by their parents or others. So in this twisted world, by definition they're victims as well. Someone else broke the law in their stead... They had no control over the circumstances.

They have control now and can return home

Hmmm... Seems like Minneapolis PD had some experience with something like this that went kinda bad. No lesson learned, I guess.

You could ask Justine Damond (I think that was her name) what she thinks of such a policy … if she were alive.