Lots of good information guys and I appreciate it very much. I know 81k is not a lot of miles for a Tundra and I wouldn't even be thinking about a new truck if I didn't have several cross country trips planned over the next few years. It's good to know people have had positive experiences with the Ram and F150 but I think I'll take the advice of others and hold on to my current Tundra at least until the new Tundra comes out in 2020/21 and then decide between the Tundra, Ram and F150. Thanks again to all that took the time to reply.

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Originally posted by D4Heavy:
Ford F-250 with 6.7 diesel. All the truck I need. 18-20 mpg if I watch my lead foot.

I own 3 Honda’s and a Toyota Camry for daily drivers but, not much interested in Toyota or Honda’s for trucks.

I wish that were my experience. I get 14.5 when not towing or hauling. I get 17-18, but then the truck does a DPF regen which drops the mileage drastically. My average mileage in 82,000 miles has been 11.

There maybe a specific configuration of the 2010 Tundra rated to tow 10,000 pounds, but the 2011 Tundras got an across the board drop in tow ratings due to a more realistic standard being used to calculate the ratings.

None of this is germane to the OP's question. Count me in the keep the truck you have camp. I have no qualms taking my 82,000 mile truck towing our 5th wheel where ever we decide to go. Nothing wrong with wanting to get a new truck, your current miles is not a reason I'd use compared with the cost of a new truck unless there are other issues with your truck.

As far as new trucks in the 150/1500 category, don't get a diesel. The return on investment (ROI) for a diesel in that size truck might make the ROI on a new truck vs. your old truck look good.

Our 5.7 Tundra is rated at 10000 pounds. The trailer (“bumper pull”) weighs 3600. The horse is 1300. Tack and hay is maybe 300. If needed, we could also carry my horse (1350). We have gone from San Antonio to Houston and back with no problem except needing gas along the way. We are happy.

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We recently bought a 2019 Tundra to tow a horse trailer. Reliability was our most important concern, and for that I don’t think you can beat a tundra

Unless that's one big ass horse trailer, you could have bought a Ford, RAM, or Toyota and been just fine. And given you're towing with a Tundra, I doubt your trailer is very big/heavy.

My 2010 Tundra is rated to tow slightly over 10000 lbs, no slouch when it comes to towing.

Your point? I ask about the weight of pony220's rig, not the tow capacity of your truck. And I guarantee if you hang 10k off the back of your Tundra, you won't like the result. Simple rule of thumb. When you need to tow 10K+ pounds you need to be driving a 3/4 ton regardless of brand.

As a matter of fact I have towed close to 10000 lbs with my Tundra and other than crappy gas mileage my Tundra operated just fine. Its OK to voice your opinion regarding 3/4 ton trucks but please don't pretend or assume to know what others have done with their trucks.

Saw a guy at a campground towing a 5th wheel camper, huge, with a tundra. Said he loved it.

All this towing talk brings back memories of my move from NM to WA state in 2016.

I had two trailers to tow, one was a 5000 lb boat/trailer combo, that would be making the trip one-way, and the other was the enclosed cargo trailer that I used to haul my machinery with. The cargo trailer made two trips, at 8000lbs each, hauling my lathes, milling machines, CNC stuff and everything else that would fit.

I took a couple different routes trying to minimize the number of high mountain passes, but there seemed to be just as many no matter which route taken.

My Ram 1500 was rated for 10,500 lbs, but I went up some grades at full throttle barely holding 55mpg and down some 50+ mile long 6.5% grades. I know a 2500 would have been better, but didn't want to buy one just for the move.

I think where your towing is as important as what. Towing 10000 lbs across Kansas is different that towing it across the Cascade mountains.

Here's a cool video of a towing comparison between Toyota and Ram, up a mountain pass. They were close enough that options, gear ratios and what the driver had for breakfast make more of a difference than brand.

Tundra up Ike's Gauntlet.
https://youtu.be/jyt49D-v2Ho

Ram Ike's Gauntlet.
https://youtu.be/us6d5R1q23U

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Originally posted by calugo:
As a matter of fact I have towed close to 10000 lbs with my Tundra and other than crappy gas mileage my Tundra operated just fine. Its OK to voice your opinion regarding 3/4 ton trucks but please don't pretend or assume to know what others have done with their trucks.

I never said you couldn't tow 10k+ with a half ton. But towing at or near the max for a half ton is neither recommended or preferred. Right tool for the right job approach.

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Originally posted by pony220:
Our 5.7 Tundra is rated at 10000 pounds. The trailer (“bumper pull”) weighs 3600. The horse is 1300. Tack and hay is maybe 300. If needed, we could also carry my horse (1350). We have gone from San Antonio to Houston and back with no problem except needing gas along the way. We are happy.

With that load I'd imagine your Tundra is ideal for that purpose. As others have noted, if your truck has been maintained properly, 81k miles is not really 'high' mileage.

Hells fire cat I got 80,000 miles out of the OEM Goodyear’s on my ‘16 F-150. Last month I did a 2200 mile turn to western CO. elk hunting. If you want a new truck get one, but I sure wouldn’t worry about dependability.

You are driving a known quantity, anything you choose might be a lemon. By the way paced a Ram on two hunting trips now. He gets about 1 mpg less with his hemi than my 5.0

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I have had a LOT of trouble with the radio / screen going dead, blue screen,

Was this the large 12" screen? I know a lot of people have reported issues if its the new for 2019 12" screen. Some have discussed it on youtube.

Yes, mine was the 12" screen. But my daughter's 2018 Grand Cherokee had the same issues and it is the small 8" screen. Also the 2019 Pacifica loaner I had was the small 8" screen and it, too, had the same issues. So I don't think it is necessarily the screen size, even tho it is easy to blame that cause it's new.

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I had a 2016 base level Ram 1500 crew cab with a hemi and we never had a problem with it in 30k miles.
We then upgraded to a 2019 Big Horn crew cab with Navi and 8 inch screen and had nothing but issues with it. It was supposed to be our retirement traveling vehicle but it had several electrical and mechanical issues that the dealer "could not replicate". I could never completely trust the vehicle so I got rid of it. It also had 4 recalls but that it somewhat expected from a new model year. The vehicle was very comfortable to ride in and got decent mileage on the highway.

All I can say is that my Ford F150s have been great. My 2016 F150 XLT with the V8 is the best. My wife's 2001 F150 is still very reliable. My dealer is terrific, and maybe that's why I don't shop other brands.

I often tow - boats, horses, cows, skid loader - and the 2016 F150 feels as capable as my 2003 F350 dually, and the new factory brake controller is very reassuring.

When I am not towing, my F150 feels like a modern Packard, big, fast and comfortable. I wish they made the F150 with touring body.....

If you want to buy a ten year old truck for a 2019 price with a 2020 color and have some stickers thrown in for free.... buy a Tundra.

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Towing and hauling for oil field work, I can guarantee you that truck has been overloaded on more than 1 occasion.

Again, nothing but conjecture since the video provided no conclusive info.

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You’re not gonna get this kind of service out of a truck from the big 3.

Oh horse feathers. There a videos on YouTube of F150's and C1500's with a million miles on them. The Tundra is a reliable proven powertrain, but its not that unique.